01-23-2013, 06:50 PM
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Women in Combat Ban Lifted... Thoughts?
I may be in the minority here but I don't think this is a good idea. What happens when they get captured? What happens if they are sent to an elite unit and can't keep up physically? What happens if they are at war and its that time of the month? I think women can do a lot/most of the things men can do, but I do not believe they should be assigned to combat units on the front lines.
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01-23-2013, 06:56 PM
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Some women can hack it, not sure about spec ops though. If captured they face hell on earth. Could make them fight harder, 'no surrender'.
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01-23-2013, 07:04 PM
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Judging by some I've known if it is that time of the month then the enemy are the ones in trouble.
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01-23-2013, 07:07 PM
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Well, if we learned anything from the combat situation that Jessica Lynch found herself in, it is that woman in combat situations in no way draw any particular focus away from other missions or undue attention from the policy makers or the general public.
Nothing can go wrong with this plan.
The real pre-annoyance is than when human beings behave in adverse conditions in all the predictable ways, it will be predictable human behavior that is blamed for being wrong, not the intelligentsia that flouted it.
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01-23-2013, 07:12 PM
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I have no problem with it as long as women are held to the same physical standards as men. Since that has not happened in similar professions where lives can be at stake over traits such as physical strength (i.e. law enforcement and fire fighting), I have no expectation that it will in this case.
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01-23-2013, 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatormoe1
I may be in the minority here but I don't think this is a good idea. What happens when they get captured? What happens if they are sent to an elite unit and can't keep up physically? What happens if they are at war and its that time of the month? I think women can do a lot/most of the things men can do, but I do not believe they should be assigned to combat units on the front lines.
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What happens when they get captured? They get raped!
What happens if they are sent to an elite unit and can't keep up physically? They sue the military and standards are changed.
What happens if they are at war and its that time of the month? Men on all sides are scared shitless!
I think women can do a lot/most of the things men can do, but I do not believe they should be assigned to combat units on the front lines. I don't either, and i think it could jeopardize others if they are called for certain duty. Fly a jet? No problem. Work a weapons system, No problem. Sharp shooter? No problem, in fact the Russian lady from WWII killed more Germans than any other. I just hope we don't see them kicking in doors engaged in guerilla warfare in the middle east.
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01-23-2013, 07:34 PM
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I am nor in fbo. Of women in combat- The middle east has already shown its disdain for women- if captured it would be fugly
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01-23-2013, 07:40 PM
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This is a bad deal
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01-23-2013, 07:57 PM
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It's being "progressive".
(you know--that warped state of NO common sense being applied)
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01-23-2013, 08:03 PM
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What a freakin' mess. It'll be a logistical nightmare, unless they drop all gender-based privacy considerations and go to co-ed showers and such like in Starship Troopers.
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01-23-2013, 08:14 PM
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This is wrong on so many levels
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01-23-2013, 08:23 PM
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What exactly are the feminists trying to prove with this?
I guess there was the same sort of reaction back when women first joined the military for any kind of position.
Military decisions are meant to be made with the military, not political ideologue in mind. Unfortunately this administration has this idea that if it's deemed politically fair, then it will work.
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01-23-2013, 08:33 PM
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Beyond stupid.
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01-23-2013, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HALLGATOR
Judging by some I've known if it is that time of the month then the enemy are the ones in trouble.
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Oh my!
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01-23-2013, 08:47 PM
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Women are just as good at dying as men. Its about time.
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01-23-2013, 08:50 PM
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There are reasons why they were not allowed before now. Those reasons still exist or did they figure out a way to deal with them?
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01-23-2013, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wgbgator
Women are just as good at dying as men. Its about time.
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Which, if it accounted for any significant portion of the important issues here, would be a very profound argument. But it actually is of Nth-tastic point. I mean, in theory, that is the same argument in favor of child soldiers too.
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01-23-2013, 09:04 PM
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if Israeli women can do it, then American women should be able to do it
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01-23-2013, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brainstorm
There are reasons why they were not allowed before now. Those reasons still exist or did they figure out a way to deal with them?
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No, the outdated thinking that prevented it is still around, as you can see here on this thread. But the legal and cultural arguments that underpinned it are quickly eroding. As for dealing with it, it appears its going to be ongoing process. Only a few jobs are going to open immediately, they are beginning to work on ways to accomodate this in more combat jobs and infantry units.
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01-23-2013, 09:10 PM
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It is a peculiar thing that the military is basically a left-wing experiment (a vast gov't jobs and job training program - steeped with affirmative action, gender neutrality, non discriminatory against sexual preference) that is fetishized by some on the right, and treated with anything from contempt to ambivalence by some on the left.
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