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Old 01-22-2013, 02:39 PM   #21
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exactly

now I don't care who you are or how much you make.....any and all of us would be ticked if we were losing 60% of our income to taxes.


and if anyone doesn't think that is excessive is seriously deluding themselves or proving the above point to be true
probably true, but then I would think how lucky I was to be making the kind of money that I am and probably wouldn't complain publicly about it where so many people are struggling to find their next meal and would love to have that problem.

he just looks like a douche for it...
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:46 PM   #22
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sorry you're right. it's more like 62-63%


and I know.....he didn't build that
I seriously doubt it, though he must be killing his accountants referral business with his haphazard claims.

What is the build that comment? About the roads thing from an Obama speech? You hang your entire economic philosophy on an intentional rightwing misquote? Sad.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:48 PM   #23
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How dare he comment on his own money. Only the envious are allowed to comment on such things!
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:27 PM   #24
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How dare he comment on his own money. Only the envious are allowed to comment on such things!
No one said he shouldn't comment on it. Most people aren't going to feel badly for him considering how much money he makes.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:54 PM   #25
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No way he should have apologized.

But I can definitely see saying he'll keep his opinions to himself if the media can't act like adults. That sounds like the right approach to me.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:07 PM   #26
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He should have made clear that his comments were intended for his peers, not you lowly peasants that salivate at the thought of having what he does.
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He has earned it....good for him. He wants to keep it...double damn good for him. He doesn't like that Obama and all the other Dem bastards want to take more of HIS money away from him...to hell with THEM.

Go Phil go. Pay no attention to all the envious and jealous little pantywads who bitch about YOU wanting to keep YOUR money.

Dems, lefties, bitchers and whiners about the rich---they are all wannabes who can't stand it that they can't succeed while others can.
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He has earned it....good for him. He wants to keep it...double damn good for him. He doesn't like that Obama and all the other Dem bastards want to take more of HIS money away from him...to hell with THEM.

Go Phil go. Pay no attention to all the envious and jealous little pantywads who bitch about YOU wanting to keep YOUR money.

Dems, lefties, bitchers and whiners about the rich---they are all wannabes who can't stand it that they can't succeed while others can.
Yes, to hell with them, and all those republicans that took more, like that commie Reagan.

So you think there are no rich lefties, or are you just spouting some thoughtless nonsense?
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Probably had a few conversations with the PGA and his sponsors. Class warfare is raging at the moment and none of them want the people holding the pitchforks at their courses.
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Boy the left really hates it when the rich sticks it to them. Once he moves out of Cali., they are going to go ape sh&$. Not like these people follow golf anyways, I bet Phil could give a rat's arse.
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Boy the left really hates it when the rich sticks it to them. Once he moves out of Cali., they are going to go ape sh&$. Not like these people follow golf anyways, I bet Phil could give a rat's arse.
God help you people that just keep saying it over and over again. The "rich" and the "left" are not mutually exclusive, they overlap quite a bit, as so many of you amnesiacs point out any time a rich lefty says anything public.

I doubt Mickelson apologized because he was sorry or even PC reasons, he is probably just doing it because he realizes that now articles about his "real" tax rate will be written (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100398096 ) and make him look like either a fool or a liar, so he hoped to quash this quickly I suspect.
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God help you people that just keep saying it over and over again. The "rich" and the "left" are not mutually exclusive, they overlap quite a bit, as so many of you amnesiacs point out any time a rich lefty says anything public.

I doubt Mickelson apologized because he was sorry or even PC reasons, he is probably just doing it because he realizes that now articles about his "real" tax rate will be written (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100398096 ) and make him look like either a fool or a liar, so he hoped to quash this quickly I suspect.
Better watch out there Cal. Your slip is showing.
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Perhaps just a reflex from your former faith? Hard to root all that completely out.
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Perhaps just a reflex from your former faith? Hard to root all that completely out.
Could be, though I quote God all the time. And Pete (whom I use to question the actions of others that might impact my imaginary Steve), and I don't even know a Pete.
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I seriously doubt it, though he must be killing his accountants referral business with his haphazard claims.

What is the build that comment? About the roads thing from an Obama speech? You hang your entire economic philosophy on an intentional rightwing misquote? Sad.

actually, no. you cannot say that I am taking an "intentionally rightwing misquote."

let me quote none other than........you

he isn't paying 60%, and lots of people aren't ticked about it, actually. He doesn't make money in a vacuum, he makes it with tax rates in mind. I suspect he will demand a little more from his endorsements next year to make up for it.


so the reference may be words from Obama, however the sentiment is held in a much more pervasive worldview.

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actually, no. you cannot say that I am taking an "intentionally rightwing misquote."

let me quote none other than........you

he isn't paying 60%, and lots of people aren't ticked about it, actually. He doesn't make money in a vacuum, he makes it with tax rates in mind. I suspect he will demand a little more from his endorsements next year to make up for it.


so the reference may be words from Obama, however the sentiment is held in a much more pervasive worldview.

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Well, you clearly don't understand whatever it is you yourself are trying to say. You completely misunderstood my quote, which has nothing to do with wealth being built off of infrastructure taken for granted (Obama's point), but rather the bargaining power of the highly paid. I for example can make an employer pay me more in a high tax area, because the world is global and employees/employers savvy. Many people obtain gross-ups, cost of living adjustments, etc. - so my point, as Phil and his agent will no doubt understand but you struggle mightily with, is that he can recoup some of these "losses" by demanding more of his services. If income taxes went down to 5%, all the Grover Norquisty creepy conservatives could circle jerk to their own irrelevance completely unaware that their compensation was being cut by the market aware of the windfall.

Sadly, and ironically, Phil's little temper tantrum bitchfest probably cost him more than the state of California ever could have.
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Phil, like Mitt Romney, knows the tricks to reduce his tax burden.
He can't reduce them like Mitt...

I did a little research and as I expected most golfers are incorporated. But I cannot conceive of how Phil is able to use the carried interest or ISO loopholes...
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