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**red4512** · 01-21-2013, 07:22 PM

Found this in the Atlanta Journal, the absolute LAST place to find a complementary UF article:

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/georgia/wil...florida/nT3k8/

GatorLurker · 01-21-2013, 07:34 PM

Hamilton and Brewer comparisons as per the article are OK, but I think that Hosie Grimsley references are more appropriate.

**outbackjack** · 01-21-2013, 09:19 PM

Better than all 3.

Great find.

InstiGATOR1 · 01-21-2013, 09:28 PM

I think Wilbekin has become what Orien Greene might have become had he been able to stay at UF. That is a valuable offensive players who is among the best defenders around.

GataBaitx3 · 01-21-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I think Wilbekin has become what Orien Greene might have become had he been able to stay at UF. That is a valuable offensive players who is among the best defenders around.

Taurean Green?

**Marshall** · 01-21-2013, 09:47 PM

The "AJC" article was from Mark Long who has covered UF for AP for a very long time...hence, it's still not an AJC writer.

InstiGATOR1 · 01-21-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GataBaitx3

Taurean Green?

Nope Orien Greene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orien_Greene

His RSCI rank was 25 in 2000. He has the best RSCI ranking of any UF player not to be a McDonald AA and as good a Corey Brewer and better than Jai Lucas who both were McDonald's AAs. UF basketball fans were a bit disappointed when Greene was not named to the McDonald's AA team his year.

gatordavisl · 01-21-2013, 10:48 PM

I would not compare ScottieW to any of the players mentioned. I see Billy placed him "in the same defensive class" as JHam and Brewer and those are fair comparisons. The defensive qualification, however, is necessary. Brewer was much taller/longer and played a different position. I don't recall JHam's or Grimsley's height, but thought they were around 6'4" and 6'5" respectively. How tall is Scottie? 6'2"?

rserina · 01-21-2013, 11:28 PM

To be fair, the question was asked of Donovan, so it wasn't as if he were making an exact comparison.

Regardless, the quality of Wilbekin's defense is right up there with those guys. Each is very different. Brewer was so freakishly long and athletic, he could jump passing lanes, and was phenomenal off the ball. For Hamilton, it was sheer strength and discipline that made him effective and versatile. Wilbekin obviously can't guard as many positions as those guys, but I think in terms of discipline and intelligence on the court he may be better than the other two.

InstiGATOR1 · 01-21-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

I don't recall JHam's or Grimsley's height, but thought they were around 6'4" and 6'5" respectively. How tall is Scottie? 6'2"?

UF listed Hamilton at 6'3" tall. I have not found a listing of Grimsley's height but I remember him at maybe 6'4" tall. Greene was listed by UF as 6'4" tall.

gatordavisl · 01-21-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

UF listed Hamilton at 6'3" tall. I have not found a listing of Grimsley's height but I remember him at maybe 6'4" tall. Greene was listed by UF as 6'4" tall.

Thanks Insti. I'm also trying to remember their position. Did JHam play the point, or the two? As I recall he was around after Dan Cross/Craig Brown and before ARob/Matt Walsh. Josie? Was he a guard or a SF?

InstiGATOR1 · 01-22-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

I don't recall JHam's or Grimsley's height, but thought they were around 6'4" and 6'5" respectively. How tall is Scottie? 6'2"?

UF listed Hamilton at 6'3" tall. I have not found a listing of Grimsley's height but I remember him at maybe 6'4" tall. Greene was listed by UF as 6'4" tall.

demosthenes · 01-22-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gatordavisl

Thanks Insti. I'm also trying to remember their position. Did JHam play the point, or the two? As I recall he was around after Dan Cross/Craig Brown and before ARob/Matt Walsh. Josie? Was he a guard or a SF?

JHam played point. He was a good player and didn't make many mistakes but he lacked any kind of creativity making him seem very mechanical about setting up the offense and his passing. Scotty's driving to the basket reminds me of JHam though. It's nice to see that from our PG again.

int1974 · 01-22-2013, 06:26 AM

Still should be a second year player, Scottie will play in the NBA.

Good D, will shoot 40% from 3, getting better as a ball handler. Think he is better than Nelson from Orlando who has played for awhile. Telfair how is he still playing in the NBA?

ReggieNelson · 01-22-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by int1974

Still should be a second year player, Scottie will play in the NBA.

Good D, will shoot 40% from 3, getting better as a ball handler. Think he is better than Nelson from Orlando who has played for awhile. Telfair how is he still playing in the NBA?

quickness and ball handling of those players is no comparison. do you remember jameer in college?

manigordo · 01-22-2013, 09:58 AM

Comparisons mean little to me. Each team has its own chemistry and Wilby is perfect for this team. The way they play together is a joy to watch. Both on O and D, Wilby has improved remarkably.

Colin · 01-22-2013, 10:56 AM

As Gators fans, we're all well aware of his defensive prowess, but what impressed me in the Mizzou game was his offense. He made few mistakes, dished the ball with intelligence and creativity, made the whole team better.

Jaggator · 01-22-2013, 01:07 PM

Today's article in the Florida Times-Union...

"Guard Scottie Wilbekin is driving force
behind Florida's stingy defense"

http://jacksonville.com/sports/colle...ehind-floridas

"Donovan compared the 6-foot-2, 178-pound Wilbekin to two of the best defenders he’s coached in his 17 years at UF: Justin Hamilton (2000-03) and Corey Brewer (2005-07).

“He’s definitely in that category,” Donovan said of Wilbekin. “Like Hamilton or even Corey Brewer, he’s got that mentality where he really takes on challenges to defend.”

Wilbekin isn’t a liability on the other end of the court, either. He’s proven to be a solid facilitator of the offense, averaging 4.9 assists per game. Wilbekin scored 13 points and had 10 assists against Missouri for his first career double-double.

“This is my first double-double, so I guess you could say this is my most well-rounded effort,” Wilbekin said.

Wilbekin is averaging 8.3 points a game, shooting 44.9 percent from the field and 36.4 percent from behind the 3-point line."

madgator · 01-22-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin

As Gators fans, we're all well aware of his defensive prowess, but what impressed me in the Mizzou game was his offense. He made few mistakes, dished the ball with intelligence and creativity, made the whole team better.

spot on post....rep for you.

themistocles · 01-22-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

Nope Orien Greene:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orien_Greene

His RSCI rank was 25 in 2000. He has the best RSCI ranking of any UF player not to be a McDonald AA and as good a Corey Brewer and better than Jai Lucas who both were McDonald's AAs. UF basketball fans were a bit disappointed when Greene was not named to the McDonald's AA team his year.

Correct Insti.

Orien Green was a terrific recruit, he was Florida's Mr. Basketball and was really a superior prospect.

I still think his loss to UF occurred because Billy D lost confidence in him when he missed an open layup against Vandy at the end of the Game and the Gators therefore lost.

I may be remembering things incorrectly, but it seems to me that following that specific event, Billy D pretty much stopped trusting backup players and began playing the starters primarily, even with very big leads.