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01-21-2013, 10:16 AM
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The Marxist regime that our government has become...
I have never thrown the term "Marxist" around loosely but the proof is there if you open your eyes. The "Marxist" transition is exactly what we are going through. Not sure if there are enough Patriots left to fight this battle... everyone who loves this country is going to be demonized by those who hate it.
Read this great article and substitute in the name "Democrat Party". You will see without question that this is exactly what we are living in. Quiet Tyranny is taking hold. Everyone.. even the most leftist of those on Too Hot have to admit that the producers, capitalists, and Patriots are under complete assault. The producers are the problem... the looters are divine... Marxism...
The Collectivist Mind Game, Part 1: Demonizing the Non-Compliant
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...compliant.html
Thus, the government's propagandistic narrative would establish the illusion of a society divided into three major classes: the ruling government class, endowed with benevolent powers to guide or punish; the majority class of hapless losers, whose survival depended on the government's largesse and protection; and an unquantifiable class of demonized mysterious enemies of the government and, by extension, of the people, who would be the perceived culprits of all failures, hardships, and misery of the little guys' everyday existence. The majority class would itself be divided into an assortment of narrow-interest groups, held together only by the glue of government's redistributive, pacifying and equalizing powers, as well as by their shared hostility towards the designated "enemies."
The prevailing feelings in such a society would be the collectivist fervor, envy of individual achievers, fear of chaos in the absence of the government's protection, hatred of anti-government elements, and hope for a better future once all the hidden enemies are unveiled and eliminated. In the end, the self-preservation of modern-day totalitarianism is ensured, not so much by the secret police with its army of snitches and brutal enforcers, as by modern technologies of psychological manipulation through the media, education, and entertainment.
Statists, of course, would like to have everything shared -- except their power. In free democracies they always demand their share of political power -- and always get what they want. However, once they are in power, they keep it to themselves and demonize the opposition. The Marxist ideal of Communism is an altruistic collectivist society of the future, in which there will be no need for government, family, or private property. Freed from capitalist exploitation, people are expected to unleash their full potential and create unprecedented material abundance. The selfish notion of the pursuit of individual happiness will wither away. There will be no money, no greed, no deprivation, and, therefore, no crime. However, since a society can't directly leap from capitalism into communism, Marx reasoned that a dictatorial socialist state would be a necessary transition in order to develop the required material base, help to spread the revolution around the world, and to condition the people's minds by uprooting greed and selfishness (or to eliminate those individuals who can't be conditioned).
A disparaging verse at the bottom describes who the enemies are:
The wealthy landowner
The kulak (a pejorative term for a wealthy farmer who "exploits" hired labor)
The drunk
The clergy (a Russian Orthodox Priest)
The bourgeois press (a non-compliant, independent journalist)
The capitalist (a banker, industrialist, merchant)
The Menshevik (a political opponent from a different communist faction)
The surviving remnants of the pre-revolutionary law enforcement and the military
Note this Lenin quote on another dehumanizing poster: "The kulaks are the most bestial, brutal and savage exploiters, who in the history of other countries have time and again restored the power of the landlords, tsars, priests and capitalists." (Full quote in Russian) The demonization of the kulaks laid the groundwork for their subsequent annihilation. Other non-compliant citizens were dealt with in a similar fashion.
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01-21-2013, 10:18 AM
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I have never thrown the term "Marxist" around loosely
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01-21-2013, 10:58 AM
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Not funny really... pretty serious IMHO.
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01-21-2013, 11:04 AM
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Actually, if you really do think you've previously used the word "Marxist" sparingly, that is rather funny.
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01-21-2013, 11:11 AM
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All this over raising tax rates 4 points on the upper 2 tax brackets???
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01-21-2013, 11:13 AM
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But please do explain why I should take this seriously.
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01-21-2013, 02:12 PM
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my first reaction,too. then I did a quick search. Moc has only used the term 'marxist' on 45 separate threads on too hot ....
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01-21-2013, 02:12 PM
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A quality hodgepodge of tinfoil haberdashery.
And again, the next pub to do anything about debt will be the first.
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01-21-2013, 02:20 PM
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Not sure what debt or gas have to do with the Kulaks. But I'm beging to think this is the standard liberalism is the same thing as radical marxism conflation.
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01-21-2013, 02:32 PM
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That's the first thing I thought
Really?!?
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01-21-2013, 02:34 PM
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Yeah, I actually reread it a few times to make sure he wasnt saying "I know I've thrown around the term "Marxist" loosely, but ..."
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01-21-2013, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rivergator
my first reaction,too. then I did a quick search. Moc has only used the term 'marxist' on 45 separate threads on too hot ....
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Yes but I bet he used the word "the" on more threads than that. That is apparently his definition of throwing a word around loosely.
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01-21-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mocgator
I have never thrown the term "Marxist" around loosely but the proof is there if you open your eyes. The "Marxist" transition is exactly what we are going through.
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We aren't going through a Marxist transition anymore. The truth is, the transition phase has already been completed. That took place years ago. Many of the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto were implemented during the 20th Century.
The phase we are in now is the unveiling or "gloves coming off" phase, where the true identity of the U.S. government is being revealed to the public in incremental steps. Our government has been under the political control of Fabian socialists, and this includes most all of the Republican administrations, since at least WW1. None of this should come as a shock to you, as numerous people both inside and outside our government have been warning about communist infiltration and subversion for well over a half-century.
What's done is done.
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01-21-2013, 07:10 PM
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Wow. just the depth and scope of the tin foiliness is just ... breath taking.
If you believe that the Dem party is Marxist, you are beyond any help. At all.
Corrupt ?Yes.
Beholden to special interests? Yep, right on the money. And my friends, that is the ROOT of all politics. Not some claimed pure notion of marxism.
GOP, DEM, all the same. Special interests have bought and sold politicians like old soda bottles.
Marxism.
DPOTY.
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01-21-2013, 08:09 PM
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The real ruling powers in our society - wealthy private interests behind the multinational banks and corporations - use Marxism, socialism, and communism as a means to consolidate government power. It's a means to an end. These wealthy private interests own and control government, and they desire to make that government bigger and more powerful so they can more easily crush competition, mitigate public dissent, and control society. The only way to do that is to convince the American people that Big Government is good for them. That's where the politicians, corporate media, and public "education" system comes in. All three areas are chock-full of Marxist-collectivist ideologues, and it's not by accident. Our society is being socially re-engineered by the ruling class for a more globally manageable, sustainable future.
Unfortunately, this is beyond most of the public's comprehension level, so it goes mostly unnoticed.
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01-21-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs
Unfortunately, this is beyond most of the public's comprehension level, so it goes mostly unnoticed.
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Just go ahead and say it: "the Jews" are trying to enslave the world by subverting governments through powerful multinational banks and financing.
After all, that was the original narrative when that conspiracy theory first got started in the Middle Ages some 800+ years ago--continuing right on up to through the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and to the present day. Really, all the tinfoil types need to do is reword things a little, update the players a bit to suit more modern audiences--and it's the exact same thing as was repeated hundreds of years ago.
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01-21-2013, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorev12
Just go ahead and say it: "the Jews" are trying to enslave the world by subverting governments through powerful multinational banks and financing.
After all, that was the original narrative when that conspiracy theory first got started in the Middle Ages some 800+ years ago--continuing right on up to through the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and to the present day. Really, all the tinfoil types need to do is reword things a little, update the players a bit to suit more modern audiences--and it's the exact same thing as was repeated hundreds of years ago.
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LOL, the butt-hurt is strong with this one.
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01-21-2013, 08:50 PM
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LOL, the butt-hurt is strong with this one.
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01-21-2013, 09:03 PM
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