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Old 01-18-2013, 02:50 PM   #21
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LOL. What would you would find indicative of a "real" event?
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:51 PM   #22
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NBC's Pete Williams: "We've been told by several officials that only handguns were taken into the school." "We've been told by those same officials that he (Adam Lanza) left the rifle in the car."
And this is what you're hanging your hat on?
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:01 PM   #23
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The last thing I want to do is disseminate false information. However, the information was presented by NBC news (no right wing source) as factual. The source was presented as "several officials". So either NBC is sloppy in their verification of facts or the "officials" didn't tell the truth or we have been misled by the media as to the facts of the incident. The truth will come out.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:05 PM   #24
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And this is what you're hanging your hat on?
I'm not hanging a hat. Let's see who is credible in the end. Is NBC guilty of sloppy reporting or are they in fact accurate? Are the officials in charge of the information reporting facts or making them up? Are you a liberal sycophant or not? We just don't know for sure.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:08 PM   #25
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The truth will come out.
Don't bet on it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:20 PM   #26
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Don't bet on it.
You are probably right. The more I dig the more confused and weird it gets. I don't usually jump at conspiracy theories but this one really makes me wonder.

Is this a grieving parent or an actor? Notice how he is laughing and joking just before getting into character for the cameras.

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So, apparently we're just playing the same old old jazz standards that we did on the big Conspiracy thread.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:34 PM   #28
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Wonderfully coached talking points from the Obama administration by way of a "grieving"? family.

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Old 01-18-2013, 03:35 PM   #29
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I heard it reported several times right after the shooting that the killer used handguns and the rifle had been left in the car. Particularly with regard to that last detail, how or why would those early reports have been fabricated from thin air? I think reporters were initially told the truth by the police and/or others on the scene, and then later the truth was changed to something more helpful to the 0bama regime's pre-existing agenda.

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I heard it reported several times right after the shooting that the killer used handguns and the rifle had been left in the car. Particularly with regard to that last detail, how or why would those early reports have been fabricated from thin air? I think reporters were initially told the truth by the police and/or others on the scene, and then later the truth was changed to something more helpful to the 0bama regime's pre-existing agenda.

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Because he did leave a gun in the car, a shotgun. It was filmed being taken out. That was the cause of the confusion. However, the rifle, and two hand guns were recovered in the school.
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I didn't participate in the original Sandy Hook conspiracy thread. I thought I would wait until all the facts were known and avoid the usual pi$$ing contest. But could someone find a video of a truly grieving family of one of the children. I can't find one. I'm beginning to wonder if the actual facts of the shooting have been "cleaned". I don't want to believe this.
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I didn't participate in the original Sandy Hook conspiracy thread. I thought I would wait until all the facts were known and avoid the usual pi$$ing contest. But could someone find a video of a truly grieving family of one of the children. I can't find one. I'm beginning to wonder if the actual facts of the shooting have been "cleaned". I don't want to believe this.
I don't want to believe that people are actually interested in consuming videos of "authentically" grieving parents in order to satisfy their baseless fears that a horrible tragedy actually had some ulterior motive or was entirely fake.
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Interesting parallel between this "confusion" and the JFK case. A German Mauser rifle was found by cops on the sixth floor of the TSDB, but it subsequently turned into an Italian Mannlicher-Carcano. (Oswald's, of course.)

This was not due to confused early reporting. Deputy constable Seymour Weitzman (who owned a gun shop) identified the weapon as a 7.65 Mauser in a signed affidavit.
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Early reports were confusing with regard to the weapons.

First, it was said that the "assault rifle" was found in the trunk of the car. Later, that "assault rifle" magically turned into a shotgun (supposedly with a large capacity drum, or something to that effect). Then, supposedly, the "assault rifle" was found inside the school.

I have been searching for the final police report about the incident, but the latest I was able to find is that the school building is still a crime scene and they are still piecing together the evidence. Supposedly, it will take a while for the final report.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:58 PM   #35
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What I want to know is, what was an armed, tactical operations police officer (a trained killer) from another town doing in the woods behind Sandy Hook Elementary that day? This guy was apparently apprehended and caught by the first responders, which would indicate that he was already on the scene when the shootings took place. How did he know to be there? Why didn't we hear more about this in the media?

Notice how this rather important tidbit of information is reported in the very last sentence of the following article:

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A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.
http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-2...ma%20Treatment

Was it this guy described here?



If so, why was he wearing camouflage? This indicates that he was in hiding or trying not to be spotted.

Was this guy a "grassy knoll" shooter? Was he involved in the shootings in any way? We'll probably never know.
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^^^^^^^^^^If and only if the assault rifle was not actually used, don't look for that police report to surface anytime soon.
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Supposedly, it will take a while for the final report.
GOAT reports (Get Our Act Together) always take time (especially when escape goats are involved).
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No assualt rifle?

From the medical examiner who conducted the autopsies of the victims:
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The veteran medical examiner told reporters that the victims had all been identified and their bodies released. In what appeared to be an uncomfortable moment for Carver, he said all of the victims he had examined had all been shot by a Bushmaster .223 caliber assault rifle, one of at least two weapons Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old suspected shooter, used to commit one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history.
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No assualt rifle?

From the medical examiner who conducted the autopsies of the victims:
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Would be interested in comparing the ME's statement with the actual autopsy reports. Of course one would have to assume that the autopsy reports are credible at this point.
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Total shame all those kids had to die for Obama to issue a bunch of EO's taking all our guns away forever.

Oh wait.
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