New Jersey Governor Christie slams NRA ad as "reprehensible"

[jimgata]

What obama voted for and said in the past does not neccessatrily reflect his actions of today, because he changes daily. It is unbelievable that one would reference anything he has done or said in the past as relating to today.

[gator996]

What has he said in the past about gun control?

What has he done today which contradicts what he said in the past?

[gatorman_07732]

I don't recall Obama running on any gun control measures because he knew it was a losing issue. You know that whole pesky second amendment he doesn't much care for in the constitution.

[fredsanford]

Originally Posted by MichiGator2002

Doesn't it take actual jackbooted thugs door to door collecting single action antiques to get an "A" though?

I love the smell of paranoid delusion in the morning...

[rpmGator]

Obama isn't on Mt. Rushmore. Using a pen, to get rid of their work, won't make him better than they, it has ruined his last four years by making damn sure, he will be fightng this one battle the entire time he has left in office. A battle he won't win.

It is the act that will turn the whitehouse back over to the R's. Happy now.

[gator996]

You think this is a bigger issue than the economy?

Wasn't that supposed to be the issue to turn the whitehouse back over to the republican party?

Immigration reform will be passed, hopefully tax reform will be attempted, obamacare will be implemented, Afghanistan will be exited...lots of things will be occuring in Obama's 2nd term...gun control will not be the #1 issue

Or a distraction to getting the rest of his agenda completed.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by gator996

You think this is a bigger issue than the economy?

Wasn't that supposed to be the issue to turn the whitehouse back over to the republican party?

Immigration reform will be passed, hopefully tax reform will be attempted, obamacare will be implemented, Afghanistan will be exited...lots of things will be occuring in Obama's 2nd term...gun control will not be the #1 issue

Or a distraction to getting the rest of his agenda completed.

tax reform? Please explain

[gator996]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100274565/Oba...althy_Possible

"And then let's set up a process with a time certain, at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013, where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deduction both Democrats and Republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point."

The remarks, which reiterated a position that White House officials have expressed privately, is designed to give Republicans an opportunity to lower rates for the rich, but only after they rise at year's end when Bush-era tax cuts expire.

[gator996]

http://taxes.about.com/od/tax-reform...-Proposals.htm

Consider tax reform after the election.

Obama may be willing to consider comprehensive tax reform after the election. In the same statement of June 9th, 2012, Obama proposed, "And then next year, once the election is over, things have calmed down a little bit, based on what the American people have said and how they've spoken during that election, we'll be in a good position to decide how to reform our entire tax code in a simple way that lowers rates and helps our economy grow, and brings down our deficit."

[gator996]

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...r-high-earners

Obama seeks Aug. 1 deadline for tax reform

President Obama is seeking an Aug. 1 deadline for overhauling the tax code and making changes to expensive federal health programs, the final pieces of what the administration conceives as a far-reaching plan to rein in the national debt, senior administration officials said Friday.

The proposed deadline was included in a plan Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner delivered to Capitol Hill on Thursday as Obama’s opening bid in talks with congressional Republicans to avert the year-end “fiscal cliff.”

[jimgata]

Obama's far reaching plan is to reduce the amount of some arbitrary increase in spending and call it a tax cut and that it lowers the debt. The debt will continue to increase as the only cuts will be in the increase of future spending. Spending will still increase at a rapid rate.To believe anything else is foolish.
What do they need to do with health care? Wasn.t Obamacare the end all of all health care problems?
He tax reform plan is to tax the rich. That's it.

[rpmGator]

When the economy isn't all that good, and you do something stupid on the second ammendment, I doubt you have a fall back plan.

Temporary occupants of the Whitehouse, do not trump the constitution.

[gator996]

Originally Posted by jimgata

Obama's far reaching plan is to reduce the amount of some arbitrary increase in spending and call it a tax cut and that it lowers the debt. The debt will continue to increase as the only cuts will be in the increase of future spending. Spending will still increase at a rapid rate.To believe anything else is foolish.
What do they need to do with health care? Wasn.t Obamacare the end all of all health care problems?
He tax reform plan is to tax the rich. That's it.

OK...despite public comments to the contrary, attempts to set a date-specific deadline for tax reform...Obama is lying, right?

And the republican party should be believed about tax reform why?

About spending, why?


On your other "points"....

What do they need to do in healthcare?

Newsflash...Obamacare doesn't take effect fully until 2014...there's plenty to implement


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[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by gator996

http://taxes.about.com/od/tax-reform...-Proposals.htm

Consider tax reform after the election.

Obama may be willing to consider comprehensive tax reform after the election. In the same statement of June 9th, 2012, Obama proposed, "And then next year, once the election is over, things have calmed down a little bit, based on what the American people have said and how they've spoken during that election, we'll be in a good position to decide how to reform our entire tax code in a simple way that lowers rates and helps our economy grow, and brings down our deficit."

Yeah, I remember this now and I just never thought about this a tax reform. I think the intention here is to hit the same people he did with the tax increase

[gator996]

Obama's comment was "And then next year, [2013], we'll be in a good position to decide how to reform our entire tax code ..."


And yet, you never thought about this a[s] a tax reform?

Actually, go out an read a little bit...

The tax reform Obama is talking about is closing loopholes and broadening the tax base with the option of actually lowering the top tax brackets along with lowering the corporate tax rate.

""And then let's set up a process with a time certain, at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013, where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deduction both Democrats and Republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point."

The remarks, which reiterated a position that White House officials have expressed privately, is designed to give Republicans an opportunity to lower rates for the rich, but only after they rise at year's end when Bush-era tax cuts expire.



But I know, its better just keep your head in the sand...

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by gator996

Obama's comment was "And then next year, [2013], we'll be in a good position to decide how to reform our entire tax code ..."


And yet, you never thought about this a[s] a tax reform?

Actually, go out an read a little bit...

The tax reform Obama is talking about is closing loopholes and broadening the tax base with the option of actually lowering the top tax brackets along with lowering the corporate tax rate.

""And then let's set up a process with a time certain, at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013, where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deduction both Democrats and Republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point."

The remarks, which reiterated a position that White House officials have expressed privately, is designed to give Republicans an opportunity to lower rates for the rich, but only after they rise at year's end when Bush-era tax cuts expire.



But I know, its better just keep your head in the sand...

He's not going to reform the entire tax code. He is going to sock it to the upper income people by eliminating loopholes, which is what Paul Ryan wanted to do in the first place.

[MichiGator2002]

Oh, I have no doubt Obama would love to reform our tax system. I mean, after all, we don't have any direct taxes on wealth, we don't have a threshold at which a 100% rate kicks in, etc. He would probably love to reform our tax system. Obamacare style Roberts-doctrine "taxes" on gun ownership, etc, who knows.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by fredsanford

Lol

Anyone who isn't a lockstep pub is a Dem in hiding, huh?

Trust me, the Dems don't want him.

The way it's looking they're going to be answering to him come 2016.

[jimgata]

In his mind it is all about him. He has gone from hero, in many conservatices minds, to being another self serving politician. His big talk and my way or the highway attitude is getting old.