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GatorSean · 01-20-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by born2beagator

Not close enough to PI to make a game changing call there.

Agreed... I thought it was a good no-call.

diamondted13 · 01-20-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by born2beagator

Not close enough to PI to make a game changing call there.

Since when does that ever stop NFL refs from throwing flags that favor the offense. They live for that sh*t.

JerseyGator01 · 01-20-2013, 06:16 PM

You're not going to get that roughing call on the last drive nor the interference call. Both were marginal calls at best. Weak effort by Ryan at the end.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by palmbayed

WTF, the QB loses his protection when he leaves the pocket, I guess u wouldn't understand since you are such a big fan of German high school soccer

You still have to protect the QB. Read the rules or maybe 3,000 pages is too many rules. Either be consistent or throw the rules away. After watching the Top 100 NFL players of all time, I'd have to say every defensive player before 1985 would have never made in today's game due to the moronic rules. Jack Lambert would have flipped everyone off for every hit he made (that would have been a penalty today).

NFL football is dying due to these stupid rules. Either make them simpler, or take out tackling altogether.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:18 PM

That was a PI. Sorry, but the defender was all over the receiver. If you don't call that, then the refs to take back half of the PI calls they made this year. The ball wa sin the air yet the defender was pretty much grinding on him.

MtownGator · 01-20-2013, 06:19 PM

Ohhh so close. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
One hell of a season though. Just wish the outcome would have been different.

Nice to see both the Falcons and Gators have great such great seasons this year.

Horsehoes and hand grenades.

palmbayed · 01-20-2013, 06:21 PM

Would they have called the hit on a running back? No, the qb becomes a runner when he crosses the line of scrimmage and doesn't get down

JerseyGator01 · 01-20-2013, 06:23 PM

I've seen much worse not called PI. The Packers do that all of the time at Lambeau Field and beyond.

GatorSean · 01-20-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RealGatorFan

That was a PI. Sorry, but the defender was all over the receiver. If you don't call that, then the refs to take back half of the PI calls they made this year. The ball wa sin the air yet the defender was pretty much grinding on him.

When it happened live, I thought it was PI... but on replay, no, it didn't look like PI to me.

The defender was holding the receiver for the entire route, but it was within 5 yards of the LOS, so no foul there. Then when the ball was in the air, he let go, and stuck his arm across to bat the ball down. Looked like a good play by the defender.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:24 PM

Still, I don't like games that follow calls all game, then all of a sudden they pull out a new rule book. I think they need to remove the roughing penalty the way it is today. Take it back to the 90s when a roughing call is really a roughing call. Based on the rules today, FSU had 30 roughing calls on Danny in 1996. Yet, we almost beat the Noles any way and we did get payback in the title game.

The NFL game is becoming boring with all these rules. In a few years, "sacks" won't be allowed and the receiver will be down when he makes the catch. Either let them play the game or change it to Powder Puff Football.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorSean

When it happened live, I thought it was PI... but on replay, no, it didn't look like PI to me.

The defender was holding the receiver for the entire route, but it was within 5 yards of the LOS, so no foul there. Then when the ball was in the air, he let go, and stuck his arm across to bat the ball down. Looked like a good play by the defender.

So, based on your reasoning, defenders should hold if the LOS is inside the 5 then. I think that rule should go away once you get inside the red zone.

raycgator · 01-20-2013, 06:27 PM

What was PI on the last drive? Holding the receiver at the spot where the ball was going to arrive anyway?

**gatordee** · 01-20-2013, 06:28 PM

Let em play ball!

crestviewgator · 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM

They could of just called it a face mask ... Would that be ok with you?

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by palmbayed

Would they have called the hit on a running back? No, the qb becomes a runner when he crosses the line of scrimmage and doesn't get down

If you are talking about the hit on Ryan that dislocated his left shoulder, then you are very wrong. He took a step to his left and threw it and then once the ball was on it's way to the receiver he gets hit hard. Yet, there was no flag for an illegal pass, so he was never cross the LOS.

Yet, the Falcons was called a couple of possessions earlier for glancing Mr Tattoo's face mask. If you think it sounds about right, then this sport has no prayer.

GatorSean · 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM

My reasoning? I'm just describing what I saw. If its a penalty to hold the WR within 5 yards of the LOS, then it should have been a foul. But I always thought the defender had 5 yards to play bump coverage.

It sounds like you're the one who wants to add more rules now.

palmbayed · 01-20-2013, 06:33 PM

I thought you were talking about the run by Ryan when he left the pocket and gained like 2 yards

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorSean

My reasoning? I'm just describing what I saw. If its a penalty to hold the WR within 5 yards of the LOS, then it should have been a foul. But I always thought the defender had 5 yards to play bump coverage.

It sounds like you're the one who wants to add more rules now.

Nope, I'd make it simple - you arrive too early = PI. Forget this 5 yard crap. The ball is in the air and you hit the receiver = PI. Same with the receiver too - push the defender while the ball is in the air = Offensive PI. Which BTW, the refs seem to get the offensive PI almost always correct.

Otherwise, I'd never throw the ball inside the 7 simply because the defenders can jump all over the receivers.

**RealGatorFan** · 01-20-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crestviewgator

They could of just called it a face mask ... Would that be ok with you?

It shouldn't have been a call at all.

diamondted13 · 01-20-2013, 06:36 PM

I was rooting hard for the Falcons (mainly because I hate SF and Harbaugh) and they definitely had some calls go against them in the game, but let's face it: that was an epic choke job. Up 17-0 at home against a rookie QB. Ryan had 271 yds, 3 TD's and 24 pts in the fist half. And....not one pt in second half? Inexcusable. The game turned on his fumbled snap. They were on their way for a score. You simply can't give away a possession at that point when your defense is that bad. They needed to outscore SF. Everyone knew that going in. When you don't score a point in the 2nd half you can't blame the refs. The refs always suck anyway.