01-16-2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gator996
Still arguing about too much spending?
OK, you want a mental health focus here....
Where's the money going to come from for this new initiative?
Cut other programs? Which ones?
Fund Obamacare and strike the "NRA" language from the law?
Hmmm, that might work...
Might be more productive than simply bitchin about a problem and not doing anything to fix it....
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Given the size of the deficit, and it's growth over the last decade, I think it would be pretty easy to divert resources.
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01-16-2013, 10:07 AM
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Problem is...
America rejected that plan.
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01-16-2013, 10:10 AM
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Problem is...
America rejected that plan.
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Thats because priorities in this country are bassakwards
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01-16-2013, 10:35 AM
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Maybe its your priorities that are backward...
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01-16-2013, 10:44 AM
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Maybe its your priorities that are backward...
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Yeah I can tell by the shape of the country
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01-16-2013, 10:50 AM
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Has anybody come up with an estimated figure as to how many guns are presently owned legally or otherwise in this country?
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01-16-2013, 10:52 AM
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300 million guns
US Population: 318 million
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01-16-2013, 11:04 AM
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300 million guns
US Population: 318 million
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I'm surprised it's that low. I wouldn't consider myself a gun person, and I've got five.
I guess children don't have many guns.
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01-16-2013, 11:07 AM
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I scanned the posts on this thread and I didn't see anyone bring up what I think is the more pertinent point. This action, whether competent or politically motivated, was done at the state level. For me - and the Constitution - that is perfectly fine. Now if we are marching towards a complete dismantling of state's rights (same sex marriage, legal weed) then we are pretty much screwed as a country anyways.
Full disclosure: I am a gun owner along with a CHP. I understand the emotions behind the gun issue but if we are going to social engineer then it is up to the STATES to pull the silliness. And I would hope that NY gets some real eye opening results over their knee-jerk reaction to passing restrictive gun laws. While I wouldn't consider packing heat on a NYC subway ( I already read that book and it doesn't end well), I would hope that the new laws would alter people's designs on where to vacation. Maybe a loss of revenue will go a LONG ways to educating the noble idea-makers in the northeast.
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01-16-2013, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tegator80
This action, whether competent or politically motivated, was done at the state level. For me - and the Constitution - that is perfectly fine. Now if we are marching towards a complete dismantling of state's rights (same sex marriage, legal weed) then we are pretty much screwed as a country anyways.
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I am definitely a states right person, but even state law has to follow the US Constitution. Does the NY law cross the line? Don't know. But some have in the past. Most notably that in DC
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01-16-2013, 01:11 PM
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It's nobody's business how many guns you own, and again, I wouldn't be bandying that fact about, as if it doesn't mean anything anymore.
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01-16-2013, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gator421
I'm surprised it's that low. I wouldn't consider myself a gun person, and I've got five.
I guess children don't have many guns.
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How many do you need to be a "gun person"?
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01-16-2013, 03:01 PM
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I can foresee a day where your doctor is compelled to ask you, "Do you own any guns ?"
And if you answer "Yes", expect a knock at your door one day.
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01-16-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
I can foresee a day where your doctor is compelled to ask you, "Do you own any guns ?"
And if you answer "Yes", expect a knock at your door one day.
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My kids pediatrician asked me
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01-16-2013, 04:30 PM
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My kids pediatrician asked me
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Friendly advice: when you hear a knock on your front door, stand to the side of the door. They may shoot right through the door.
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01-16-2013, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
Friendly advice: when you hear a knock on your front door, stand to the side of the door. They may shoot right through the door.
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But I don't have any guns
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01-16-2013, 05:18 PM
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996 - Will you consider moving back to NY now?
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01-16-2013, 10:30 PM
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Glad I don't live in New York because this is bullshit. I bought a few more 15 round mags for my S&W because we have the same morons running loose in this state.
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01-16-2013, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
Based on the provisions of this bill, seems like they're going to have to take Bloomberg's guns (and you know he has them), as clearly he suffers from delusions of grandeur.
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Bloomberg will have a special exemption from the law as he is a liberal.
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01-16-2013, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gator996
Semi-automatic pistols included in definition of assault weapon...
State laws could become alot tougher across the northeast in addition to at the federal level..
New York Has Gun Deal, With Focus on Mental Ills
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/ny...laws.html?_r=0
By THOMAS KAPLAN and DANNY HAKIM
Published: January 14, 2013
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and lawmakers agreed on Monday to a broad package of changes to gun laws that would expand the state’s ban on assault weapons and would include new measures to keep guns away from the mentally ill
The state Senate, controlled by a coalition of Republicans and a handful of Democrats, approved the legislative package just after 11 p.m. by a lopsided vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly, where Democrats who have been strongly supportive of gun control have an overwhelming majority, planned to vote on the measure Tuesday.
Approval of the legislation would make New York the first state to act in response to the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., last month.
Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, had pressed lawmakers to move quickly in response to Newtown, saying, “the people of this state are crying out for help.” And the Legislature proceeded with unusual haste: Monday was the first full day of this year’s legislative session.
“We don’t need another tragedy to point out the problems in the system,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference.
“Enough people have lost their lives,” he added. “Let’s act.”
The expanded ban on assault weapons would broaden the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state. |
Welcome to the Knee Jerk state. Home of the politically correct.
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