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Tebowism0823 · 01-13-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 96Gatorcise

what do you mean the way he carries himself? You must be paying attention, all Lewis does is praise god every chance he gets. i have seen many instances in different interviews and stories about him praise his god for all of his good fortune.

Just yesterday after that game he was thanking god for giving him another game and wore a psalm 91 under his gear.

I'll state this as my opinion only: quoting a few scriptures and saying the word God doesn't make you a good person. That's all. Believe what you will.

PS. He's been thanking God his entire career....

96Gatorcise · 01-13-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

I'll state this as my opinion only: quoting a few scriptures and saying the word God doesn't make you a good person. That's all. Believe what you will.

PS. He's been thanking God his entire career....

you could be right, all i know of the man is what is on TV. The reality is it has no bearing on my life what he believes.

g8rfan22 · 01-13-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

God only forgives if asked. Lewis is a thug and I highly doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

Not a man walking this earth should ever make a statement such as this. You have no clue as to his relationship with GOD.

Swampmaster · 01-13-2013, 07:49 PM

ray lewis--runs with a bad posse---don't mess with them.

Tebowism0823 · 01-13-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by g8rfan22

Not a man walking this earth should ever make a statement such as this. You have no clue as to his relationship with GOD.

When one sees ones actions he's able to form an opinion. The bible says you can't have it both ways.

g8rfan22 · 01-13-2013, 07:52 PM

This thread is slowly making it's way to Too Hot..

g8rfan22 · 01-13-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

When one sees ones actions he's able to form an opinion. The bible says you can't have it both ways.

And from his actions since this event occurred, what has he done to lead you to believe Ray Lewis hasn't changed his life?

Tebowism0823 · 01-13-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 96Gatorcise

you could be right, all i know of the man is what is on TV. The reality is it has no bearing on my life what he believes.

I understand. I have my opinion just like everybody else. Paint me as not a Ray Lewis fan.

Tebowism0823 · 01-13-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by g8rfan22

And from his actions since this event occurred, what has he done to lead you to believe Ray Lewis hasn't changed his life?

Have you ever seen some of his interviews or heard his mic'd up? Now I don't want this to move to too hot so I'll leave it at this. No person is perfect, the bible says you can ask for forgiveness and be forgiven, but it also states that you shouldn't continue to live in that same type of sin. In the end, Ray only has to answer to one man if he believes in that. My opinion doesn't matter to him nor will affect his outcome.

g8rfan22 · 01-13-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Have you ever seen some of his interviews or heard his mic'd up? Now I don't want this to move to too hot so I'll leave it at this. No person is perfect, the bible says you can ask for forgiveness and be forgiven, but it also states that you shouldn't continue to live in that same type of sin. In the end, Ray only has to answer to one man if he believes in that. My opinion doesn't matter to him nor will affect his outcome.

Yes I've seen interviews and also heard some mic'd ups. I agree, no one is perfect and our opinions don't matter.

Go Gators!!

gtr2x · 01-13-2013, 08:15 PM

Check back in about 3 or 4 years.....will be interesting to see where Lewis' god fearing ways take him.

akaGatorhoops · 01-13-2013, 10:38 PM

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It's even more surprising how people still try to remind everyone about it.

What an odd comment.

akaGatorhoops · 01-13-2013, 10:49 PM

The issue I have with the self defense claim is that these men were apparently stabbed numerous times.... while on the ground. The stab wounds pierced multiple vital organs, indicating not an intent to protect one's own life, but rather to end another's.

**dawny** · 01-13-2013, 10:54 PM

Rainey needs his lawyers.

acegator · 01-14-2013, 12:18 AM

So does any one know why they were stabbed? purchasing knives the day before sounds premeditated to me. anyone know why the white suit was never found? how did he explain away the blood in his limo?

mac4lyfe · 01-14-2013, 03:22 AM

Thanks for confirming what we already knew. You're far, far away from being Christ like. You're also a fraud/fake. You worship Tebow who worships Christ but you don't follow who he follows. And you call me stupid. You're obviously conflicted and confused.

How can you state what you believe to be true? Were you at the scene? Did you see Lewis kill someone? You're only believing what you read in the news. I could care less what you believe about Lewis. It doesn't strike a nerve for me. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. You started this by saying who God listens too and forgives. Yet, we all now know that you have no clue who God is, so you are no expert on the subject.

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See once again your stupidity shines through. I'm not a Christian nor have I claimed to be Christ like. I'm stating what i believe to be truth whether you like it or not. If it strikes a nerve for you then that's your issue.

mac4lyfe · 01-14-2013, 03:41 AM

See you are confused/conflicted and you don't even know it. The concept of asking for God's forgiveness is Christian. Since you aren't a Christian how would you know God only forgives if asked? If you are Jewish then you know the concept of forgiveness through repentance in words and deeds. Doesn't Lewis through his words and his good deeds appear to be repentant?

If you don't believe in God then why did you bring him up in the first place??? How would you believe God doesn't talk to Lewis if you didn't believe that God must at least talk to someone thus there is a God. You don't even know what you believe so how do you know what a thug is??

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

God only forgives if asked. Lewis is a thug and I highly doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

Tebowism0823 · 01-14-2013, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

Thanks for confirming what we already knew. You're far, far away from being Christ like. You're also a fraud/fake. You worship Tebow who worships Christ but you don't follow who he follows. And you call me stupid. You're obviously conflicted and confused.

How can you state what you believe to be true? Were you at the scene? Did you see Lewis kill someone? You're only believing what you read in the news. I could care less what you believe about Lewis. It doesn't strike a nerve for me. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. You started this by saying who God listens too and forgives. Yet, we all now know that you have no clue who God is, so you are no expert on the subject.

Once again you have stated nothing but a little childish rant. I have some chump who goes by mac4lyfe trying to educate me on religion and you throw the word hypocrisy towards me?

Since you have all the answers, tell me how I worship Tebow? Is it my name that's been explained before. The fact that my wife and I, and both our families, have known the Tebow family for 20 years now. Orange the fact that the phrase "tebowism" was given to Tim by his teammates when he was in Pop Warner. Now I know you'd rather just kick and scream and play the victim, but the fact is you're wrong which is probably your life story.

I have my opinion, an opinion based off of many life events that Ray has out out there. If you're to slow to comprehend that then that's your problem. It obviously did strike a nerve because I called him a thug and questioned his belies when one brought up religion. Who cares? I don't have to run that by you nor do I give a shit what you think. Do you know what the hell an opinion is? Where did I base or say my feelings were 100% unquestionable truth? I didn't. Learn to read. I stated it was my opinion and that my opinion won't matter in the end.

If you're going to cry over something, at least get your argument right.

Tebowism0823 · 01-14-2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

See you are confused/conflicted and you don't even know it. The concept of asking for God's forgiveness is Christian. Since you aren't a Christian how would you know God only forgives if asked? If you are Jewish then you know the concept of forgiveness through repentance in words and deeds. Doesn't Lewis through his words and his good deeds appear to be repentant?

If you don't believe in God then why did you bring him up in the first place??? How would you believe God doesn't talk to Lewis if you didn't believe that God must at least talk to someone thus there is a God. You don't even know what you believe so how do you know what a thug is??

Who said I didn't believe in god? Are you just making things up or are you really that slow that you can't even comprehend an easy statement. I stated I hadn't been to church in 12 years or so; never said I didn't believe. I just don't live it nor do I pretend to.

What good deeds has Ray Lewis done?

Your last paragraph or rant or whatever the hell you want to call it doesn't even make sense. The reason I said I highly doubt Lewis talks to god is because of his own actions. The way he presents himself. Anybody can say thanks to god by not really mean it. You think god is going to acknowledge someone who constantly comes to him in time of need but doesn't any other time? You're the one that needs to read up if you want to know more about Christianity. I'm very educated on the subject I just don't live it right now. Still doesn't take away from the fact the Ray is/was a thug. Even you know the meaning of thug; well maybe I'm giving too much props to you. Look it up!

Gatorrick22 · 01-14-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Who said I didn't believe in god? Are you just making things up or are you really that slow that you can't even comprehend an easy statement. I stated I hadn't been to church in 12 years or so; never said I didn't believe. I just don't live it nor do I pretend to.

What good deeds has Ray Lewis done?

Your last paragraph or rant or whatever the hell you want to call it doesn't even make sense. The reason I said I highly doubt Lewis talks to god is because of his own actions. The way he presents himself. Anybody can say thanks to god by not really mean it. You think god is going to acknowledge someone who constantly comes to him in time of need but doesn't any other time? You're the one that read up if you want to know more about Christianity. I'm very educated on the subject I just don't live it right now. Still doesn't take away from the fact the Ray is/was a thug. Even you know the meaning if thug; well maybe I'm giving too much props to you. Look it up!

Agreed.

These apologists who think this whole event, and RL's role in it, is something that's forgivable are sadly mistaken. Man has laws that seem to work for some and against others, depending on their public status.

Giving the murder victim's child money doesn't bring back a life that was taken. Talking about God/religion has nothing to do with man's laws and what happen here on Earth.