Ray Lewis: 21st Century OJ

[samit23]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

He really is the modern day Les Miserables.

I just threw up in my mouth.

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[teebone7200]

Originally Posted by gatorev12

No justice system (let alone ours) is perfect. It's hard to make a murder case without any evidence directly linking the suspects to the crime. Not to say it can't happen (because it does), but the burden of proof on the state is deservedly high and sometimes, it's hard to meet.

So when you have two dead bodies and scant evidence to point to who did it, plea bargains are often the only result a prosecutor can obtain.

If the murders weren't carried out by Lewis--they were most certainly carried out by someone in his entourage.

Keep in mind: OJ was acquitted of his crime--only to admit later on that he did it. Really, the only thing that's prevented Lewis from doing the same thing is that the NFL would kick him out if he actually came out and admitted the degree of his involvement. I suspect we'll see Lewis retire--and then 3-5 years from now, he'll make a heart-felt public statement about how sorry he is, etc--without explicitly saying he did it, but acknowledging he regrets what happened.

I have never heard that he confessed. Is this true?

[magnafides]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

No. I think his son Jason did it.

OJ helped to cover this up to protect his son, as many fathers would, but I don't think he was the killer.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. My question was directed specifically to the poster that I quoted because of his previous post. It was not meant to derail the thread.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by QU1ZE

It's even more surprising how people still try to remind everyone about it.

Why wouldn't they?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by g8rfan22

It's our justice system fellas. If he was punished accordingly, and by that I mean through the court systems, let it go.

It's the justice system that failed. Why should someone let it go when an innocent person was killed?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by QU1ZE

What proof do you have that he committed the 2 murders? With the system we have in place he was acquitted and that's good enough for me. If he did it then his time of reckoning will come by a power much higher than our judicial system.

What proof do you have that he didn't? So this is the type of thread that makes you feel like contributing? You must have skeletons in your closet!

[Minister_of_Information]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

It's the justice system that failed. Why should someone let it go when an innocent person was killed?

When you say an innocent person, are you referring the large group of thugz that bumrushed Lewis' small posse as they were trying to get in the limo and leave the scene? Lewis' friends were acquitted for self defense.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by magnafides

Please tell me that this post is sarcastic, it's too ridiculous not to be.

Has to be. Nobody's that stupid.....Right?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

The 2 dead guys had it coming. They were the instigators and paid with their lives. I lived in Atlanta at the time and use to hang out at most of those clubs including that one. Fights ending up in death happened every other weekend. Guys getting shot/stabbed over stupid chit. In almost everyone of these cases EVERYONE walks. Who are you going to prosecute? A guy steps on another guys shoes, the other guy pushes him, the guy stabs him in self defense.

Athletes were often targets of jealous thugs. A friend of mine was chatting up a girl when some idiot pushes up on him and started wrestling him for no reason. I stepped in and clocked the guy out cold. I thought the guy was dead. Imagine my panic as the police got there. Long story short, the police did a quick check on me and the thug, knowing he was a trouble maker, they basically told him he had it coming and let me go.

I don't know the whole story because I wasn't there but word on the streets was that they had it coming. That's enough for me. In all honesty, if you're a trouble maker and not doing anything with your life, very few people are going to come to your defense. Not too many people missed those guys being gone.

And to the comment about why would Lewis pay the victims families. Well, it certainly doesn't mean he was guilty. Why fight in court where you might lose but more importantly where your name is in the news everyday negatively. It was a lot cheaper to end this case and go on with his life and restore his image, which he did. He really is the modern day Les Miserables. Also, he probably felt bad for the child that lost a father. Wouldn't you, even if the father deserved it?

I can't help but think that if he was a Gator, most people here would be more rational. Not to condone killing but at least understand what was happening in those clubs.

Some of you people really have messed up morals.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel

That's the word.

That is the truth.

God only forgives if asked. Lewis is a thug and I highly doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Minister_of_Information

When you say an innocent person, are you referring the large group of thugz that bumrushed Lewis' small posse as they were trying to get in the limo and leave the scene? Lewis' friends were acquitted for self defense.

And what exactly led up to that point?

[Minister_of_Information]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

And what exactly led up to that point?

You mean other than the usual nonsense when you mix bad asses and alcohol at 3am?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by Minister_of_Information

You mean other than the usual nonsense when you mix bad asses and alcohol at 3am?

The usual? Who determines that and what were the events leading up. You just can't sweep that under the rug.

[mac4lyfe]

What do you know about God and forgiveness? Who do you know who God speaks to? Do you think God will speak to someone like you who thinks he's better than everyone else? You need to learn humility.

You obviously are a self righteous pompous ass, yet you still fall very short of God's mercy. You need a bible lesson.

Jesus forgave the murderer hanging on the cross next to him. So God does forgive murderers even if you don't.

You also need to read James 6:11 Who made you judge and juror?

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

God only forgives if asked. Lewis is a thug and I highly doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

[magnafides]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

Jesus forgave the murderer

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

You also need to read James 6:11

Just a tip, God doesn't = Jesus for everyone.

[Minister_of_Information]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

The usual? Who determines that and what were the events leading up. You just can't sweep that under the rug.

You mean the part where they were followed from the club to their limo by a much larger group before being attacked?

[mac4lyfe]

God doesn't exist for some people as well. I wasn't talking to either of them. I was talking to a guy who goes by Tebowism, which would most likely means he's Christian although he's obviously not Christ like.

Originally Posted by magnafides

Just a tip, God doesn't = Jesus for everyone.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

What do you know about God and forgiveness? Who do you know who God speaks to? Do you think God will speak to someone like you who thinks he's better than everyone else? You need to learn humility.

You obviously are a self righteous pompous ass, yet you still fall very short of God's mercy. You need a bible lesson.

Jesus forgave the murderer hanging on the cross next to him. So God does forgive murderers even if you don't.

You also need to read James 6:11 Who made you judge and juror?

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

Speak tough on the web all you want if it makes you feel better about yourself. I simply stated you have to ask forgiveness before he'll forgive you. Given the way Ray still carries himself I made my opinion known that I doubt he's asked and I doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

As far as your attempt at toughness, I haven't stepped foot in a church in 12 years or so so your little rant is false. The problem with people like you is you like to quote scriptures from the bible. The only problem is you only quote the ones that sort of kinda maybe fit what you were trying to ramble on. Don't preach to me wanna be Mac, read the bible for yourself.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by mac4lyfe

God doesn't exist for some people as well. I wasn't talking to either of them. I was talking to a guy who goes by Tebowism, which would most likely means he's Christian although he's obviously not Christ like.

See once again your stupidity shines through. I'm not a Christian nor have I claimed to be Christ like. I'm stating what i believe to be truth whether you like it or not. If it strikes a nerve for you then that's your issue.

[96Gatorcise]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Speak tough on the web all you want if it makes you feel better about yourself. I simply stated you have to ask forgiveness before he'll forgive you. Given the way Ray still carries himself I made my opinion known that I doubt he's asked and I doubt him and god talk on a regular basis.

As far as your attempt at toughness, I haven't stepped foot in a church in 12 years or so so your little rant is false. The problem with people like you is you like to quote scriptures from the bible. The only problem you only quote the ones that sort of kinda maybe fit what you were trying to ramble on. Don't preach to me wanna be Mac, read the bible for yourself.

what do you mean the way he carries himself? You must be not paying attention, all Lewis does is praise god every chance he gets. i have seen many instances in different interviews and stories about him praise his god for all of his good fortune.

Just yesterday after that game he was thanking god for giving him another game and wore a psalm 91 under his gear.

for years he has been very outspoken about his faith and belief. This is one of the reasons why I laugh when people say it is because TT is outspoken of his faith is the reason he is being run off. If that were true they would run off Lewis as well.