Spread option

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Didn't the Ducks score 17 and 24 in those two games- their problem was defense,

Right that's what I said SEC has speed on defense...

[Swampmaster]

mort and merrill hoge--hate the spread option

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Didn't the Ducks score 17 and 24 in those two games- their problem was defense,

Scoring 17 or 24 points isn't even half of the 50-plus points they averaged per game. If you hold a team to less than half of what they put up per game, you're basically shutting them down.

[rserina]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Didn't the Ducks score 17 and 24 in those two games- their problem was defense,

17 and 24 points given the speed of Oregon's offense is hardly successful. Then again, their skill players weren't the quality of the back seven Auburn or LSU had, which is the key to making any scheme work in the league.

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

mort and merrill hoge--hate the spread option

Lol hoge is a numb nut

[Jonas]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

If everyone upgrades equally fast this is totally moot. Speed really isn't even the deciding factor, it's recognition.

I don't think that is necessarily true because the physical size of the field stays the same. If the horizontal distance of the field scaled the same way speed did, then I'd say it would be the same.

Somethings are based on just the relative difference between offense and defense, others depend on absolute values.

[geauxgator1]

All the non athletic QB's hate the spread, for obvious reasons. Looks like it's hear to stay, as now so many qb's are dual threats. Like everything else that is new, it meets with resistance. There have never been so many qb's that could run and throw. Kaepernick is really unbelievable. Way underrated coming out of school.

[geauxgator1]

Originally Posted by Gatuar

On their best day I'm sure Tebow a 235 lbs not 251 could run a high 4.5 40

But Kap could post a low 4.4

He said his best time ever was 4.43....

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by gator1986

Zing! Imagine taking Tebow with some of oregon's running backs, Percy Harvin, Aaron Hernandez, both pounceys, and a possession receiver... Scary....

Not so fast. Spurrier tried to re-create a UF team during his experiment with the Redskins. We all remember the results. I don't think taking the same players from any college team and expecting the same results at the next level is a good idea.

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

Not so fast. Spurrier tried to re-create a UF team during his experiment with the Redskins. We all remember the results. I don't think taking the same players from any college team and expecting the same results at the next level is a good idea.

Jeez lee corso......... Gawsh!

[sleeze]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

Not so fast. Spurrier tried to re-create a UF team during his experiment with the Redskins. We all remember the results. I don't think taking the same players from any college team and expecting the same results at the next level is a good idea.

Spurrier didnt have the talent.thats for sure

[JerseyGator01]

The Redskins had the win yesterday mentality when Spurrier was there by acquiring old has beens for their defense when they hired the Bengals' current HC to be their DC for one year. Bruce Smith got his sack record I believe during Spurrier's first year. Spurrier reluctantly played GM since the Skins didn't really have one.

Defenses may be bigger and smarter in the NFL but they're not really noticeably faster.

[gator1986]

^^^^^ agree with both above

[GatorLaw]

If Tim's performance in Denver was any indication, he doesn't throw the ball anywhere near as well as Kaeperlink (sp?) or any of the other young QBs who use some variation of a read option like Griffin and Wilson. Sorry but that's a fact, just look at his stats and QB rating. IIRC he had the lowest completion percentage and lowest QB rating of any starting QB in the league when he was with Denver.

That doesn't mean he couldn't be successful but unless he's improved by spending a year watching Sanchez show how not to do it he will need a lot of work at reading defenses and getting rid of the ball before he's in Kaeperlink's (or Griffin or Wilson's) league as a passing QB.

[GatorBen]

This thread seems to be based on equating a read option play with a spread option offense, but they aren't necessarily the same.

That said, as mentioned above the difference between the QBs running it this year and Tebow is that they all seem to be better passers than Tim with the possible exception of on fly and deep post routes, which Tim has always seemed to throw pretty well.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by gator1986

Zing! Imagine taking Tebow with some of oregon's running backs, Percy Harvin, Aaron Hernandez, both pounceys, and a possession receiver... Scary....

With the right coaches and team-mates around him, Tebow would be unstoppable. But then the haters would just say that it's the talent around him that makes him look better than he really is. Of course all NFL QB's are in that same boat, but Tim would be singled out for it. Haters gonna hate.

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

This thread seems to be based on equating a read option play with a spread option offense, but they aren't necessarily the same.

That said, as mentioned above the difference between the QBs running it this year and Tebow is that they all seem to be better passers than Tim with the possible exception of on fly and deep post routes, which Tim has always seemed to throw pretty well.

What I was trying to get at is coaches implementing their own styles of spread offense and read, and technically the way the 49ers ran it against Green Bay it was mixture of both...

[dawny]

Tim and Kap are 2 different QBs completely,arm strength,power,speed and the ability to read defenses.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by Jonas

I don't think that is necessarily true because the physical size of the field stays the same. If the horizontal distance of the field scaled the same way speed did, then I'd say it would be the same.

And this would probably be a valid point if the issue is the ball always being run through the sideline, but that isn't what I see. I think the primary problem has been an inability to exploit all facets of the game with the spread, to mix things up enough to keep clever, well-trained athletes from easily recognizing the play.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Keep in mind that the difference between a 4.2 and a 4.5 doesn't even account for a single yard lost in game speed.