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Old 01-13-2013, 03:26 AM   #1
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:27 AM   #2
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Which is why I've been pulling for Assad's Army since the beginning. Pretty damn disgusting that our government and media try to make these scumbags seem like the good guys in this war. The rebels in Libya had similar views. Remind me again why we should care if Assad uses chemical weapons on this particular group of "rebels?"
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This short clip is well worth a listen. It explains the system of international terrorism for hire and why the U.S. would support Al-Qaeda "rebels" just ten years after supposedly being attacked by Al-Qaeda on 9/11.

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Which is why I've been pulling for Assad's Army since the beginning. Pretty damn disgusting that our government and media try to make these scumbags seem like the good guys in this war. The rebels in Libya had similar views. Remind me again why we should care if Assad uses chemical weapons on this particular group of "rebels?"
Kind of funny and also sickening to hear our media outlets chastise Assad for referring to the opposition as terrorists. How is he wrong? Who is setting off all the car bombs?
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Hey I think these people bring it upon themselves too, but how do we know what they are really singing? Just because the video editor puts what we are to believe captions for what they are saying does not make it true.
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The fact that they all cheer whenever the dude says "Osama bin laden" should say everything.
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Ever since (and maybe before) the days that the competing empires on the Mesopotamia and Nile Rivers start fighting over the Middle East the political scene there has been cluster f##k.

The inhabitants there will cut a deal with the devil if they could live on their own.

As for the current we can go back to the end of WWI. The drawing up of the Middle East map set the table for what we have today. We can thank the UK and France for that..
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Which is why I've been pulling for Assad's Army since the beginning. Pretty damn disgusting that our government and media try to make these scumbags seem like the good guys in this war. The rebels in Libya had similar views. Remind me again why we should care if Assad uses chemical weapons on this particular group of "rebels?"
So you are pulling for the side aligned with the Iranian mullahs? The rebels represent many groups; they are not a single monolithic entity. If Assad does decide to use chemical weapons the vast majority of victims will be civilians, not the rebel fighters. I assume that you also had no problem when Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians.

You may want to educate yourself be reading the following:

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Syria’s Rebel Rivalry Between Jihadists And FSA
Jan 12, 2013 4:45 AM EST
Infighting and revenge killings have broken out between jihadist groups and the more secular Free Syrian Army.

The gunning down by jihadists of a top Syrian rebel commander near the Turkish border on Wednesday morning risks triggering internecine warfare between rebel brigades competing for power and war spoils in northern Syria.
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Assad may be aligned with the Iranians but he's better than the likely alternative which is a coalition of al qaeda and nusra aligned militants or the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood who have been waiting for this for 30 years. And so what if he uses chemical weapons? There's no point in getting involved, just like there was no point to getting involved in Iraq.
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Either side sounds like a peachy-keen bunch.
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Either side sounds like a peachy-keen bunch.
Personally I believe that we are approaching a period of instability in the Middle East (and else where). If you don't like the political regime in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and so forth then just wait a couple of months or years. There will be a change or multiple changes.
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Which is why I've been pulling for Assad's Army since the beginning. Pretty damn disgusting that our government and media try to make these scumbags seem like the good guys in this war. The rebels in Libya had similar views. Remind me again why we should care if Assad uses chemical weapons on this particular group of "rebels?"
Good guys? In that region of the world?

Not many, if any. Maybe the Jordanian government. But they're too western and will be the next domino to fall. You heard it hear first.
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There are a lot of websites out there that will show you some of the things Syrian Rebels and the other side do to eachother and to the civilians around there. They are VERY graphic.
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Personally I believe that we are approaching a period of instability in the Middle East (and else where). If you don't like the political regime in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and so forth then just wait a couple of months or years. There will be a change or multiple changes.
Probably a very astute observation.

Middle Eastern countries have had exploding populations for several decades now...but no subsequent take-off in GDP or their economies. Millions of disaffected youth and young adults sit unemployed and with no future prospects either--which has historically been the catalyst for many revolutions and unstable societies.
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So you are pulling for the side aligned with the Iranian mullahs?
The Iranian mullahs aren't going around invading and occupying multiple countries, drone-murdering children, and trying to pass it off as a humanitarian cause.
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There are a lot of websites out there that will show you some of the things Syrian Rebels and the other side do to eachother and to the civilians around there. They are VERY graphic.
Throwing people off rooftops, mass executions. Upstanding bunch.
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So now we're in favor of dictatorship and opposed to democracy if the democratic government is voted into place by Muslims?

Fascinating.
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The Iranian mullahs aren't going around invading and occupying multiple countries, drone-murdering children, and trying to pass it off as a humanitarian cause.
Iran has conducted assassinations and espionage other countries.
Lets not forget the arming a funding of outside organizations in Gaza, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, the Gulf Stated, North Africa, and other countries.

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The arrests in July of Iranian Quds members in Cyprus targeting Israelis, and the Bulgarian bus attack, are recent examples of Iran's subversive operations....
The arrest in New York City of Iranian nationals accused of enlisting Los Zetas cartel members to assassinate the Saudi ......
Iran's ability to disrupt the global economy does not end at the Strait of Hormuz, but includes the financial centers of the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Dubai. Despite the network of relationships between the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) and the U.S., Iran is undeterred from quietly interfering in the internal affairs of Bahrain and Qatar......
Bahraini opposition movements -- such as al-Haq, Bahraini Hezbollah and the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain -- received strong financial and organizational support from the Iranian Quds force. Additionally, training in urban warfare made these organizations incredibly effective during the upheaval in the Middle East and North Africa over the past 18 months.....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...b_1869134.html

Iran may not want to occupy other countries but they sure are greasing the wheels got the unity of Muslim nations to form a be Grand Caliph

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But all of that that does not signal any plan or attempt at merge a large union of predominantly Muslim countries into one unified Muslim world, does it? No. However, you might reconsider when the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of Iran’s Armed Forces, Major General Hassan Firouzabadi says something like this;
“Unity and solidarity present Muslim governments and nations with the best and most effective way to counter the plans, plots, and conspiracies of the enemies of Islam.”
As the Major General talks of “unity and solidarity” between Muslim nations, we see that eleven countries in the Middle East are currently experiencing protests on a daily basis. Their fragile governments, like Egypt could start falling like dominoes, leaving a power vacuum. Even MSNBC picked this up, and showed a map similar to the one that appeared on Beck’s February 1st program.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011...-uh-caliphate/
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Iran has conducted assassinations and espionage other countries.
So? We do all that stuff too, except on a far greater scale.

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Lets not forget the arming a funding of outside organizations in Gaza, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, the Gulf Stated, North Africa, and other countries.
So? We do all that stuff too, except on a far greater scale.

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Iran may not want to occupy other countries but they sure are greasing the wheels got the unity of Muslim nations to form a be Grand Caliph
It sounds to me like they are trying to create a coalition to defend themselves from the likes of us and our neocolonial empire. Can you honestly blame them for that? The Anglo-American Establishment has been meddling in their affairs since, well, forever. Who's occupying and drone-bombing who?

They are simply doing as any rational actor would under the same circumstances. We are the aggressors, not them.
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