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Old 01-13-2013, 10:14 PM   #41
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Really? Fair shot this year? He is unorthodox and of the three years you mention, it seems like he got close to a fair shot last year - how'd that go?

I didn't see him get a "fair" shot with the jets even though they said he was the number 2 quarterback. Were they lying because when your starter is having the year Sanchez had, it seems like his backup would get a series or two? They said he was number 2 but wouldn't play him. I'm not sure why they wouldn't just put him at 3 if that's where they thought he really was. Hmmm, perhaps the jets have dysfunctional management and...

Nahhhh.... that can't be it.

If Tebow was so bad, Elway could have just played him this year and all of his support would be gone because he's just so bad. The only time he was allowed to play, his team made the playoffs and won a game. Confounding....
Did you forget about the week after when he got destroyed by the Patriots?
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Did you forget about the week after when he got destroyed by the Patriots?
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Look, fact is he has won a Super Bowl, multiple MVPs, set many NFL records in the process and you guys are screaming for a guy who has won 1 playoff game. Tebow was one of the greatest college football players in history, he was a Gator and I understand the support, but until he wins or accomplishes a little more than 1 playoff game, I think the orange and blue sunglasses need to come off.
Peyton's team lost in their first playoff game this year. This after the Broncos kicked our boy to the curb. You expect us to just stand by and talk about how great Peyton was during all those other times he didn't choke in the playoffs? We'll keep our O&B glasses planted firmly on our faces, thank you very much.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:01 PM   #44
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Peyton's team lost in their first playoff game this year. This after the Broncos kicked our boy to the curb. You expect us to just stand by and talk about how great Peyton was during all those other times he didn't choke in the playoffs? We'll keep our O&B glasses planted firmly on our faces, thank you very much.
No. No, I do not expect you to kiss his butt, but I also do not expect for you to ridicule, deface, and crucify him because he is clearly the better quarterback. It is CLEAR that Peyton is a better NFL QB than Tim. Like I said, I understand you supporting your guy, but people on this board almost seem cult like in their following of him. He was traded, he sat on the bench, and the passed over by his hometown team. The QB in front of him had one of the worst seasons in franchise history and they still kept him on the bench. There is a reason he isn't playing, and I trust the guys who get paid millions to do that job over a bunch of butt hurt Internet posters.
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No. No, I do not expect you to kiss his butt, but I also do not expect for you to ridicule, deface, and crucify him because he is clearly the better quarterback. It is CLEAR that Peyton is a better NFL QB than Tim. Like I said, I understand you supporting your guy, but people on this board almost seem cult like in their following of him. He was traded, he sat on the bench, and the passed over by his hometown team. The QB in front of him had one of the worst seasons in franchise history and they still kept him on the bench. There is a reason he isn't playing, and I trust the guys who get paid millions to do that job over a bunch of butt hurt Internet posters.
I completely agree that Manning is a better QB than Tebow. But I do think that Tim might be a more clutch QB than Peyton. Peyton is obviously a stat monster, but to ignore the fact that he flat stinks when the stakes are at their highest is just as blind as anyone who would pretend that Tim has beautiful mechanics.

There might be something to the joking suggestion on the Broncos board that the ideal mix would be to play it like baseball and ride Peyton but have Tebow available as your closer, lol.
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No. No, I do not expect you to kiss his butt, but I also do not expect for you to ridicule, deface, and crucify him because he is clearly the better quarterback. It is CLEAR that Peyton is a better NFL QB than Tim. Like I said, I understand you supporting your guy, but people on this board almost seem cult like in their following of him. He was traded, he sat on the bench, and the passed over by his hometown team. The QB in front of him had one of the worst seasons in franchise history and they still kept him on the bench. There is a reason he isn't playing, and I trust the guys who get paid millions to do that job over a bunch of butt hurt Internet posters.
Your hyperbole is out of place on this board. Football is an emotional sport. Gator fans are expressing their emotions regarding your guy choking. Get past it.

As for Tim, there was no way he would get a fair shake in NY. Are you aware of Sanchez's contract status?

But that's not the issue here. We have some more celebrating of Manning's choke job to get to.
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Your hyperbole is out of place on this board. Football is an emotional sport. Gator fans are expressing their emotions regarding your guy choking. Get past it.

As for Tim, there was no way he would get a fair shake in NY. Are you aware of Sanchez's contract status?

But that's not the issue here. We have some more celebrating of Manning's choke job to get to.
Funny, you seem to enjoy Peyton losing almost as much as I enjoy Timmy Tebone getting splinters in his butt.
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It really has little to do with Tebow for me. I just never have and never will like Peyton Manning. Nothing is ever his fault and I'm tired of looking at him and that disgusting forehead.
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It really has little to do with Tebow for me. I just never have and never will like Peyton Manning. Nothing is ever his fault and I'm tired of looking at him and that disgusting forehead.


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Peyton may be the best regular season QB ever. So what. In the playoffs, there are many who are better.

When spotted 14 points by the special teams, he gives back 17 on turnovers and loses by three. Playoffs in cold weather isn't his thing.

Cold is a great D against him and they play football in winter and he chose one of the coldest spots to play. Not all that bright but the money was green.

Denver sold out, got what they paid for,regular season wins. Lots of regular season whuppen on also rans with the usual, one and done when the only the big boys are left during playoff time.

He is behind Tim in one stat that counts, one playoff win behind Tebow in Denver Bronco history.
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I see your point but Manning was suppose to be this huge upgrade and yet they couldn't win 1 playoff game? Not to mention the way their team over performed this year IMO. That's why I still believe the verdict is still out. Elway didn't bring Manning in to be the QB of the future. He brought him in to win now. It's either next year or never for this experiment.
They won 5 more games went from 23rd in total offense to 4th.

The playoff game might be more of a long-term determinant but right now I can't see the argument.
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This is the most entertaining thread I've read in awhile; now I'm ready for the day; lol. too funny.
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Did you forget about the week after when he got destroyed by the Patriots?
Does Tim also play defense?
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I think Denver is going to try and get Tebow back!
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I completely agree that Manning is a better QB than Tebow. But I do think that Tim might be a more clutch QB than Peyton. Peyton is obviously a stat monster, but to ignore the fact that he flat stinks when the stakes are at their highest is just as blind as anyone who would pretend that Tim has beautiful mechanics.

There might be something to the joking suggestion on the Broncos board that the ideal mix would be to play it like baseball and ride Peyton but have Tebow available as your closer, lol.
I agree with this. I'd also add that when the conditions are not in his favor, he's an avg QB. Conditions meaning no dome. The man does not dig the cold.
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Funny, you seem to enjoy Peyton losing almost as much as I enjoy Timmy Tebone getting splinters in his butt.
Make no mistake, we love it more
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Orton lost four games for Denver last season. Yet you skip that fact to prove someone is better than Tim.
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They won 5 more games went from 23rd in total offense to 4th.

The playoff game might be more of a long-term determinant but right now I can't see the argument.
Tebow didn't play the entire year. The AFC west was even worse this year so you can't compare the two that easy.

I'm not arguing that Manning is garbage, I'm just the money they spent on him seems to be wasted and Tebow was the better option. Especially with the age and weather factor.
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Well those are different arguments than the one I was making, which was simply that Manning was an upgrade.

I doubt that would even come close to being controversial or debatable outside of a Gator forum.
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