Moral McCarthyism

[QGator2414]

Excellent piece by Dr. Mohler.

Pastor Giglio bowed out of speaking at the inauguration because of his Biblical beliefs regarding homosexuality. The ironic statement by the White House was quite sad IMO. Christians need to stand strong for the Cross in a time where tolerance seems to have multiple definitions to some...

http://www.albertmohler.com/2013/01/...l-mccarthyism/

"An imbroglio is a painful and embarrassing conflict. The imbroglio surrounding Louie Giglio is not only painful, it is revealing. We now see the new Moral McCarthyism in its undisguised and unvarnished reality. If you are a Christian, get ready for the question you will now undoubtedly face: “Do you now or have you ever believed that homosexuality is a sin?” There is nowhere to hide."

[bluelang]

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with the news. Which congressperson is leading hearings designed at ferreting out, discrediting, and ruining the lives of Americans who think homosexuality is a sin?

[108]

How about Giglio just standing up for himself and not bowing out?

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

How about Giglio just standing up for himself and not bowing out?

I actually think he should have done as you suggest. But then again maybe it was on his heart to not do so. The White House statement speaks for itself though...

[wgbgator]

Well, they can probably hide in churches. Actually, they don't even need to hide. But serious question, if someone invited to the inaguration to speak expressed a view that was considered racist in their past, and withdrew when it was uncovered after some public pressure, do you think such a piece would be written, especially one invoking "moral McCarthyism?"

[ChartsandGrafs]

LOL, moral McCarthyism.

Joseph McCarthy was the rarest of high-level politicians who broke ranks with the Washington establishment, bravely stood up, and tried to sound the alarm on communist infiltration throughout the highest levels of our government. He was America's second coming of Paul Revere, and instead of taking him seriously, the American people thumbed their noses at him and went back to sleep. Evidence since that time (Venona decrypts) has proven him largely correct. The U.S. government was infested with communist spies and sympathizers.

His name being a bad word here in the present, even with the benefit of unassailable evidence and historical hindsight, is pretty good evidence that the infiltration was never reversed.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

Well, they can probably hide in churches. Actually, they don't even need to hide. But serious question, if someone invited to the inaguration to speak expressed a view that was considered racist in their past, and withdrew when it was uncovered after some public pressure, do you think such a piece would be written, especially one invoking "moral McCarthyism?"

I have no clue. However we see there will be no tolerance for one that views homosexuality from a Biblical view. Even if they were not going to speak on the issue...

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

LOL, moral McCarthyism.

Joseph McCarthy was the rarest of high-level politicians who broke ranks with the Washington establishment, bravely stood up, and tried to sound the alarm on communist infiltration throughout the highest levels of our government. He was America's second coming of Paul Revere, and instead of taking him seriously, the American people thumbed their noses at him and went back to sleep. Evidence since that time (Venona decrypts) has proven him largely correct. The U.S. government was infested with communist spies and sympathizers.

His name being a bad word here in the present, even with the benefit of unassailable evidence and historical hindsight, is pretty good evidence that the infiltration was never reversed.

Interesting take.

[108]

Originally Posted by QGator2414

I have no clue. However we see there will be no tolerance for one that views homosexuality from a Biblical view. Even if they were not going to speak on the issue...

untrue, Christians are tolerated, but this WH doesn't want to unintentionally promote intolerance of a group of citizens sexual orientation

orientation isn't a choice, Christianity is a belief system

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

untrue, Christians are tolerated, but this WH doesn't want to unintentionally promote intolerance of a group of citizens sexual orientation

orientation isn't a choice, Christianity is a belief system

The irony when you consider Giglio was not going to speak on homosexuality...

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by 108

untrue, Christians are tolerated, but this WH doesn't want to unintentionally promote intolerance of a group of citizens sexual orientation

orientation isn't a choice, Christianity is a belief system

Says who?

[108]

Originally Posted by QGator2414

The irony when you consider Giglio was not going to speak on homosexuality...

"unintentionally" as in indirectly

[northgagator]

Originally Posted by 108

untrue, Christians are tolerated, but this WH doesn't want to unintentionally promote intolerance of a group of citizens sexual orientation

You say that Team Obama so concerned about unintentionally promoting intolerance towards gays (wonder why you could not say that word).

Why isn't Team Obama concerned about unintentionally promoting intolerance towards Christians, Hebrews, Buddhist, and Hindu's?
They are doing just that with inviting Ingrid Mattson, president of the Islamic Society of North America. Please note that Islam has a lot on intolerance towards nonbelievers. Several Islamic countries do not allow bibles, Torah, women's rights, and most of all Homosexuality.
Oops, looks like Team Obama is going to unintentionally offend the gays any way.

Originally Posted by 108

orientation isn't a choice, Christianity is a belief system

To a degree you are correct. The inaccuracies is with a belief system. People may not be born with a belief system but many are immersed in it from day one. Under such indoctrination a belief system can be grafted into a person.

[Lawdog88]

The real irony is that . . . McCarthy was gay.

[108]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

The real irony is that . . . McCarthy was gay.

Can't be that!

[Lawdog88]

http://www.nndb.com/people/490/000051337/

JOE McCARTHY

AKA Joseph Raymond McCarthyBorn: 14-Nov-1908
Birthplace: Grand Chute, WI
Died: 2-May-1957
Location of death: Bethesda, MD
Cause of death: Hepatitis
Remains: Buried, St. Mary's Cemetery, Appleton, WI

Gender: Male
Religion: Roman Catholic
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Matter of Dispute
Occupation: Politician
Party Affiliation: Republican
Nationality: United States
Executive summary: US Senator from Wisconsin, 1947-57
Military service: USMC (1942-45)

Senator Joe McCarthy is infamous for having exploited the specter of Communist infiltration in the government for his own aggrandizement. The man claimed to possess a list of 57 State Department employees who were known Communist moles. But instead of turning it over to the FBI for investigation, McCarthy chose to hold Congressional hearings to investigate the claims personally. These show trials made himself and his assistant Roy Cohn household names, and were discontinued only after it became clear that the entire effort had been nothing more than an exercise in destructive folly. Eventually the Senator died in office of peripheral neuritis, which was caused by decades of hard drinking.

In October 1952, Las Vegas Sun columnist Hank Greenspun wrote:

Joe McCarthy is a bachelor of 43 years. [...] He seldom dates girls and if he does he laughingly describes it as window dressing. It is common talk among homosexuals in Milwaukee who rendezvous in the White Horse Inn that Senator Joe McCarthy has often engaged in homosexual activities.

Another Greenspun article alleged:

The Young Republicans held a state convention in Wausua, Wis., at which Sen. McCarthy was an honored guest. During the convention, McCarthy spent the night with William McMahon, formerly an official of the Milwaukee County Young Republicans, in a Eausua hotel room, at which time, McCarthy and McMahon engaged in illicit acts with each other.

McCarthy briefly considered filing a suit but took no action, because it would have meant testifying about his sexual predilections. Instead, he married his research assistant Jeannie Kerr and they adopted a baby girl.

[bluelang]

Lawdog, you just rocked my world. I used to hate him, but now that I know he was gay, I'm forced by the liberal agenda to take his side and defend his behavior.

Quandry!

[NJG8tor]

His lacky Ray Cohn was a known homosexual who eventually died of AIDs. They probably had sex.

[northgagator]

McCarthy was Gay?

Damn I thought that he got the name "Tail Gunner Joe" from his WWII experiences.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

The real irony is that . . . McCarthy was gay.

I always figured that all conservatives who railed against the other side were gay.