01-11-2013, 03:40 PM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: May 2010
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#1 in Pomeroy Ranking Again
We're the most efficient team to date. Close losses are always treated as random by his system.
http://kenpom.com/
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01-11-2013, 04:51 PM
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Junior
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 420
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corpgator
We're the most efficient team to date. Close losses are always treated as random by his system.
http://kenpom.com/
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Wins and losses are not figured into Pomeroy at all. Just statistical information during the game. There predicted scores are quite accurate because of this fact.
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01-11-2013, 06:28 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: s. e. florida
Posts: 32,714
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we returned back to form vs UGA. quite efficient. still room for improvement too!
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01-11-2013, 08:19 PM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,321
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Yep UF jumped back to number one in his rankings after the UGa game and remained there after the Thursday night games.
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01-13-2013, 03:27 AM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Jan 2011
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After the Saturday games UF is ranked second in adjusted offense and second in adjusted defense.
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01-13-2013, 07:25 AM
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
After the Saturday games UF is ranked second in adjusted offense and second in adjusted defense.
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Holy crap!
ps Louisville is on pace for a defensive season for the record books.
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01-13-2013, 09:24 AM
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Gator Country Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: s. e. florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
After the Saturday games UF is ranked second in adjusted offense and second in adjusted defense.
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and to think: i'm bitchin' about something on practically every possession, it seems

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01-13-2013, 09:42 AM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,136
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Here's the updated Massey Ranking. UF is #8. Click on UF to see the remaining games and the percentage of chance at a win, like Pom does. Massey has UF as big favs in most every game..... 84% at TAMU.
Of course other factors..... Did TAMU's "light go on" when conference play began last week vs Arky? Is UF severely weakened due to health problems?
Will TAMU be negatively effected by playing UF in ....the game after the big win.... this Thursday? The worst disease in college sports is.... Victory Fever, after all.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.ph...b&sub=NCAA%20I
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01-13-2013, 09:46 AM
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Gator Country Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: s. e. florida
Posts: 32,714
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we can only hope A&M comes back to earth....
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01-13-2013, 10:15 AM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,321
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorbogey
and to think: i'm bitchin' about something on practically every possession, it seems
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Yeah, I think two points might might reconcile this:
1. There are lots of bad offenses out there this year so you can be second most efficient and still make some less than ideal offensive play.
2. There are lots of bad offenses out there this year so you can sometime get by with some defensive mistakes.
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01-13-2013, 01:37 PM
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Gator Country Silver
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,377
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According to Pomeroy's values, there are no meaningful differences among the top 10-12 schools: UF - .98; Louisville, Indiana, Duke - .97; Michigan, Minnesota - .96; Kansas, Syracuse, Pittsburgh - .95; Ohio State, VCU - .94.
You simply cannot say that .9784 is higher than .9725 because the variability inherent to all measures (error) means that both are "approximations" with perhaps a .01 confidence interval of + or -.025 above or below the computed estimate.
So, basically, the Gators are in the Top 10 in Pomeroy ratings, as they are in almost all other ratings as well.
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01-13-2013, 04:18 PM
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All American
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,866
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#1 in Kenpom and #1 in Sagarin Predictor. The Gator Boys be ballin'. This is a VERY good team.
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01-13-2013, 04:24 PM
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Sophomore
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 348
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Originally Posted by GatorLurker
#1 in Kenpom and #1 in Sagarin Predictor. The Gator Boys be ballin'. This is a VERY good team.
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A good team with a lot of key injuries right now.
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01-13-2013, 11:03 PM
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Heisman Winner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,817
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan85
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It could be a factor. I'd much rather play them after a big win than a close loss. The win gets our guy's attention and maybe has TAMU thinking they're a little better than they are.
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01-13-2013, 11:15 PM
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All American
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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TAMU won at UK but I think a ton of teams could do that this year. This TAMU team isn't very good unless they all of a sudden put it together. I think we are just saying "wow, they won at Kentucky." But UK is pretty bad too. But still, it is on the road.
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01-13-2013, 11:31 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: s. e. florida
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here's UF's line on pomeroy:
1 Florida SEC 12-2 0.9784 121.1 2 83.5 2
btw, UK is 17th, ole miss is 20th and missouri is 26th
w/ Arizona at 14th, Wisconsin at 15th, Marquette 40th, Kansas State 45th, Middle Tenn State is 54th & Georgetown is 60th.
top 10 Sagarin thru Jan 13th 2013:
College Basketball 2012-2013 Div I games only through 2013 January 13 Sunday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 25 | VS top 50 | ELO_SCORE | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 3.46] [ 3.37] [ 3.63]
1 Duke = 94.51 15 1 77.84( 6) 4 1 | 5 1 | 94.42 1 | 94.30 2
2 Florida = 93.27 12 2 75.84( 28) 0 1 | 3 2 | 92.12 6 | 94.55 1
3 Indiana = 93.11 15 1 71.94( 213) 1 0 | 2 1 | 92.38 5 | 93.65 4
4 Louisville = 92.35 15 1 74.34( 72) 1 1 | 2 1 | 91.02 7 | 93.96 3
5 Kansas = 92.30 14 1 75.40( 42) 1 1 | 6 1 | 92.70 2 | 91.67 7
6 Minnesota = 92.30 15 2 77.05( 13) 1 2 | 3 2 | 92.58 3 | 91.76 5
7 Michigan = 92.21 15 1 74.59( 65) 2 1 | 4 1 | 92.39 4 | 91.75 6
8 Syracuse = 90.78 16 1 72.70( 168) 1 0 | 1 1 | 90.25 10 | 91.07 8
9 Creighton = 90.44 16 1 73.81( 103) 0 1 | 1 1 | 91.01 8 | 89.68 9
10 Arizona = 90.08 15 1 76.60( 16) 3 1 | 4 1 | 90.77 9 | 89.22 13
25 Missouri = 85.77 12 3 73.80( 104) 1 2 | 3 3 | 85.93 28 | 85.32 25
51 Kentucky = 82.20 10 5 72.06( 206) 0 3 | 0 4 | 79.22 74 | 86.71 19
58 Texas A&M = 81.47 12 3 72.83( 165) 0 0 | 1 2 | 83.37 46 | 79.69 72
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01-13-2013, 11:32 PM
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Heisman Winner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,817
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It's a little bit of both. UK hasn't put it together yet, obviously. The Vandy game showed where they were vulnerable and TAMU was good enough to take advantage.
Aggies aren't nearly as bad as they looked against Southern or St. Louis either.
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01-14-2013, 11:51 AM
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Gator Country Silver
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,377
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So, if the Massey probabilities are reasonably accurate, they indicate a remaining win/loss record of 14-2, which would be 16-2 total in the SEC.
Given the continual injuries and the Gators amazing ability to lose games in which they aren't crushing the opponent (e.g. Arizona and K-state this year), I think the Gators end up losing 3 or 4 SEC games, but this is clearly a good team, which, if, when Healthy, could Win the SEC, the SEC tournament, and even possibly the National Crown.
We will see what we sill see.
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