01-11-2013, 12:45 PM
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I know I don't want him to be Mike. I like the name RoPo.
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01-11-2013, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rserina
Yes. Middle linebacker, but it is similar to a Will (weakside) in our system. That's why you saw Taylor and Morrison play both positions last year. Sam (strongside) has more similarities with Buck (weakside end) than the other linebacker positions under this staff. Rolin is the only one of our current linebacker commits I see ending up at Sam, while the others seem to fit the Mike/Will mode. Walker would have been a Buck/SDE guy, Sherit is sort of a Buck/SDE guy, and I would see the same thing with Daniel. Not sure we have anyone in this class who is a Sam/Buck guy like McCray, Powell, McCallister, Cox.
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So Rolin was told by the staff that he may eventually grow into the buck position later in his career, b/c of his ability to rush the passer and he wants to be a pass rush specialist, FWIW
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01-11-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LAGatorDoc
So Rolin was told by the staff that he may eventually grow into the buck position later in his career, b/c of his ability to rush the passer and he wants to be a pass rush specialist, FWIW
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That makes sense to me, especially given the crossover between the two positions. I have also wondered if we want to be a multiple 3-4/4-3 team. That's what Saban brought to the league, the direction Meyer wanted to go with the defense, and to some degree what the Buck position itself enables. Guys like Fowler and Bullard could be phenomenal ends in a 3-4 or great strongside ends in a 4-3. Same for Sherit and Ivie. Riles and Williams could play any line position in a 3-4. So could Valentine.
The key is having those outside linbackers who can leverage the run, drop into coverage, or put their hands down and rush the passer. Powell is that sort of a guy. McCray was. Ball and Kitchens are okay, but just don't have the beef. Rolin could be. Daniel possibly could be. McCalister could be, too. Anzalone? Interesting to think about, if not really attainable right now.
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01-11-2013, 01:28 PM
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I know it is relative, but this class of LB's for the most part have great size for their athleticism. As a barometer considering i dont see many, if any, 6'3 230 guys..... wasnt Tebow a 6'3 225-230 freshman and Spikes a tad bigger?
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01-11-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ufballer86
is mike lb an inside backer? really wanted two this class
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Yes.
Mike = middle
Sam = strong side
Will= weak side
Buck = Stand up DE/OLB
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01-11-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gator4Christ
I know it is relative, but this class of LB's for the most part have great size for their athleticism. As a barometer considering i dont see many, if any, 6'3 230 guys..... wasnt Tebow a 6'3 225-230 freshman and Spikes a tad bigger?
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Both gained around 15 lbs. while here. Harvin probably better than 20.
Just throwing this into the mix: recall that many felt that Lerentee McCray was too skinny coming out of highschool to play LB. And look where he wound up!
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01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
Both gained around 15 lbs. while here. Harvin probably better than 20.
Just throwing this into the mix: recall that many felt that Lerentee McCray was too skinny coming out of highschool to play LB. And look where he wound up!
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Thanks. Great seeing the size and athleticism of these guys coming in. And then getting to work with Dillman
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01-11-2013, 02:24 PM
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Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?
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01-11-2013, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PSGator66
Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?
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If he has the grades and doesn't commit CWM might rip Bryant Young's head off.
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01-11-2013, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORAZ
If he has the grades and doesn't commit CWM might rip Bryant Young's head off.
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Sure, but Muschamp rips the heads off people who take five seconds too long to order at a restaurant.
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01-11-2013, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PSGator66
Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?
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Doesn't mean he isn't being recruited for a particular position, which I think is the point of debating Buck vs. DT.
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01-11-2013, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MadduxFanII
Sure, but Muschamp rips the heads off people who take five seconds too long to order at a restaurant.
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I don't know about that, but I do know 3 things (these are facts):
1) CWM also once urinated in a semi-truck. That semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime.
2) CWM once started a fire at camp by rubbing two ice cubes together
3) CWM once made a happy meal cry.
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01-13-2013, 08:58 PM
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Random: I am watching 2014 E tape right now and all I can think about is we better get Daniel. Daniel is a 5 star football player. Even with Fowler Powell and McCalister ready to play Buck next year I don't see how you could keep Daniel off the field.
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01-13-2013, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Even with Fowler Powell and McCalister ready to play Buck next year I don't see how you could keep Daniel off the field.
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So what do you do with those guys if we get Daniel?
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01-13-2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Elijah is the most important Defensive player in the class.
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What % would you put on it right now that he's playing in Gainesville next year?
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01-13-2013, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LAGatorDoc
I don't know about that, but I do know 3 things (these are facts):
1) CWM also once urinated in a semi-truck. That semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime.
2) CWM once started a fire at camp by rubbing two ice cubes together
3) CWM once made a happy meal cry.
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lol
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01-13-2013, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DieAGator
So what do you do with those guys if we get Daniel?
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Play Fowler at SSDE & BUCK. Ideally you would want probably 3 guys playing the position so everybody is well rested IMO.
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01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
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Lol. E. Daniel and D. Robinson are the two best players in the class to hear you tell it. I'll bet neither are starters or even get significant PT next year. Your highlight tape analysis is a bit off.
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01-13-2013, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorFootballNC
Lol. E. Daniel and D. Robinson are the two best players in the class to hear you tell it. I'll bet neither are starters or even get significant PT next year. Your highlight tape analysis is a bit off.
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01-13-2013, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
What % would you put on it right now that he's playing in Gainesville next year?
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I dont like giving percentages but I have a hard time seeing him turn down Florida. The scheme we run plus Dilaman will be hard for him to turn down. He said Ole miss was his best visit ever and their recruits are pushing for him, but I think the kid is all business. I also like the fact that his coach is coming with him on his visit.
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