FSU to SEC?

[Swampmaster]

f$u's too broke to pay the $50 million buyout fee---the SEC will not pay it for them. They should have taken the SEC's offer back in the early 90s, but bowden voted it down to get all those easy wins and more bonus money.

[UFreak]

Originally Posted by kellgator

I'd also like to add for those of you in the "UF would never let this happen" crowd that whether UF chooses to push for FSU to join the SEC or not is a decision that is likely made or negotiated well above Foley and possibly even Matchen. Money is tight for everyone, including our state government. I'm sure the bean counters in Tally have noticed that the UAA donates 6 million a year back to academics. I'm sure they also know that figure could potentially go way up with the impending SEC network. I'm sure they also know that FSU's athletic department lost money last year and that that trend could potentially continue especially if other marquee teams leave the ACC. At the very least, FSU's athletic department won't be donating money to academics any time soon if they are in the ACC. All these things matter more to the real decision makers than recruiting does.

Gospel

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by ETGator1

You aren't entitled to know who his sources are. When the sources get compromised, they will dry up.

Nobody's entitled to anything. If you want your rumors to carry a little weight, give some details.

We don't need names here, but some insight would go a long way.

[Nicho]

Originally Posted by Speedofsand

wrong.

You know the guy, personally?

[Speedofsand]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

I don't understand why you're taking offense to this.

If someone says something via a source, it only seems fair to give some details about that source.

Wouldn't YOU take offense to being called a clownboy and a troll?
I didn't see where he said he was offended in the first place.

[g8tr96]

Does anybody ever consider checking another posters post history to see if they actually could be a troll? It's a very simple process that can clear up a lot of false troll claims.

I checked Gatordones post history and there is nothing that resembles anything to what we would consider a troll.

The troll accusations are getting waaay out of hand.

[gatorev12]

f$u has been claiming this for years--it's more of a case of them thinking they're bigger than they are. Remember last season about the crimi-noles joining the Big 12 and how worked up their fanbase got--only for the Big 12 to amusingly come out and say "um..we haven't heard from them..." The OP might really have a f$u connection--that doesn't mean this whole damn thing is yet another attempt by the f$u fanbase to engineer a move that's not really in the works.

In some ways, f$u to the SEC would make sense for us--as others have pointed out on this board. But far better to keep them marginalized as the little brothers they are.

[Speedofsand]

Originally Posted by Nicho

You know the guy, personally?

You're calling for proof from him on what he said is a rumor.
You called him a troll. How about you show PROOF that he is a nole troll?

[Nicho]

Originally Posted by Speedofsand

You're calling for proof from him on what he said is a rumor.
You called him a troll. How about you show PROOF that he is a nole troll?

I asked you a simple question.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by Speedofsand

Wouldn't YOU take offense to being called a clownboy and a troll?
I didn't see where he said he was offended in the first place.

I don't know, I sure didn't call him either. I would certainly understand that any support for a rumor would lend it credence.

[Speedofsand]

Originally Posted by Nicho

I asked you a simple question.

Do YOU know him personally? I do not, but like the mod said, its easy to see a poster's history and determine if he is a troll or not. If YOU don't know him personally, how do you know he is a troll? Burden of proof is on you making the accusation.

[Mayhem41]

Originally Posted by kellgator

I'd also like to add for those of you in the "UF would never let this happen" crowd that whether UF chooses to push for FSU to join the SEC or not is a decision that is likely made or negotiated well above Foley and possibly even Matchen. Money is tight for everyone, including our state government. I'm sure the bean counters in Tally have noticed that the UAA donates 6 million a year back to academics. I'm sure they also know that figure could potentially go way up with the impending SEC network. I'm sure they also know that FSU's athletic department lost money last year and that that trend could potentially continue especially if other marquee teams leave the ACC. At the very least, FSU's athletic department won't be donating money to academics any time soon if they are in the ACC. All these things matter more to the real decision makers than recruiting does.

As right as you are in the post previous to this, you are wrong in this one. Totally incorrect.

State government has ZERO impact and/or say as far as conference affiliation is concerned. Furthermore, if they did, there is NO apparatus in place for pressure/punishment for any other said state school that may attempt to block it. You're barking up the wrong tree here.

[Nicho]

Obviously, I don't know for sure if Done is a troll. But he's said a lot of dumb things over the past couple of weeks.

He completely wrote off our chances for D-Rob. In fact, he tried to say that the Peach Bowl outcome alone hurt our chances with him. Obviously not.

He said he'd trade James Clark for anybody in our class right now. That's absurd and can easily be interpreted as a swipe at our pledges.

Now this thread, which he titled without a question mark to make it appear definitive. The innocent "I need help" followed, but was it really tough to remember to add that in the first place? I mean, it's Posting 101.

Taken together, something about the guy just seems off to me.

[Nicho]

Originally Posted by Speedofsand

Do YOU know him personally? I do not, but like the mod said, its easy to see a poster's history and determine if he is a troll or not. If YOU don't know him personally, how do you know he is a troll? Burden of proof is on you making the accusation.

I do not know him personally either.

BTW, do you always answer a question with a question? Sheesh.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by orangeblueorangeblue

I don't understand why you're taking offense to this.

If someone says something via a source, it only seems fair to give some details about that source.

Why? A source is a source regardless. You can choose to believe it or not. Him giving you a name of someone you don't even know isn't going to change your mind one way or the other. At this point it's just to bicker back and forth.

[OaktownGator]

Originally Posted by ETGator1

Tough crowd. I've watched people be right, unwilling to compromise a source(s), and get run off because the message isn't what most want to believe or hear. It's happened here for years and it should stop.

GatorDone, I don't know you and I don't care who you are. Quit responding to the dumbed down masses. Post what you've got when you have every time.

Thanks for the information about FSU and the SEC talking whether anything comes of it or not.

I'll second this.

It's hard for me to picture the SEC wanting reFSU, but I sure don't mind people posting what they hear, when they feel they have a legit source.

[Speedofsand]

Originally Posted by Nicho

Obviously, I don't know for sure if Done is a troll. But he's said a lot of dumb things over the past couple of weeks.

Taken together, something about the guy just seems off to me.

You left out the part about him being 100% ahead of everyone else about Walker. I seriously doubt we see FSU join the SEC, but I'm not going to attack someone for mentioning that talks are going on because there have been talks before. Not a big deal.

[atlantagator86]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

f$u's too broke to pay the $50 million buyout fee---the SEC will not pay it for them.

There probably won't be a $50 million buyout. Maryland will get that shot down completely in court. FSU, Maryland and whoever else wants to leave the ACC will probably end up negotiating based on the previous $20 million buyout figure and my guess is end up paying $10-$15 million if they leave. You are correct that the SEC is unlikely to ever help pay for anybody's exit fees.

But that's not the issue here. In my opinion, the SEC may get it's ducks in a row and be ready to make expansion moves, but I don't think the SEC will expand until it has to, which is probably the point when they feel it is absolutely imminent that the Big-10 or Pac-12 will go to 16.

So the timing of this would make no sense. Plus, if the SEC were to expand, I think FSU would be a good way down the list of expansion candidates. Only if the SEC were to invite and get turned down by VT, UVA, UNC, NSCU and OU at a bare minimum (which I seriously doubt would happen), would FSU even be considered as a candidate.

HIGHLY unlikely there is anything to this right now. But while FSU is not a top candidate, people who say FSU will absolutely NEVER be in the SEC might want to temper that. Things can change quickly in this and I'm sure FSU and Clemson are somewhere on that expansion candidate list. I just think there are a lot of bad things that would have to happen for them to become serious candidates.

[Nicho]

Originally Posted by Speedofsand

You left out the part about him being 100% ahead of everyone else about Walker. I seriously doubt we see FSU join the SEC, but I'm not going to attack someone for mentioning that talks are going on because there have been talks before. Not a big deal.

With Pruitt going to FSU, it wasn't much of a stretch to anticipate that.

[bofusgators]

Not going to happen 2.