01-10-2013, 07:47 AM
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We should win all those games and the SEC East.
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01-10-2013, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by adgator
Sorry I am not from the Ron Zook school of coaching where he believes that losing is a good learning experience!! No reason in the world to have lost The Sugar Bowl---Gators are far superior team and even with a less then average O-Line and pass rush (that day) we win 9 out of 10 against these guys! And we didn't learn a damed thing. That game cost us being ranked # 2 team in the final polls with a good argument for # 1 since we beat the TA&M team that beat Alabama on their home field!!!!!
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At least 2 falacies with that post.
1. We learned that we must play hard the entire game.
2. With a Sugar Bowl win, we still had no arguement to be ranked higher than #2.
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01-10-2013, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikehev
No disrespect intended, but Ron Zook never came close to appearing in, much less losing a BCS bowl. Not sure that is a valid comparison.
In Christ forever,
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John 3:16
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Zooker got Illinois to the Rose Bowl one year.
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01-10-2013, 11:13 AM
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Avatar remember that a few years ago Bama lost to Utah...badly. THis Sugar Bowl loss was predicatble because when I saw who we were going to play I told my wife this is a bad match. We had nothing to gain and it was the biggest game in Lvilles history. They wanted it more and they got it!
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01-10-2013, 11:21 AM
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Until Muschamp win a sec title he will always be compared to zook, a good recruiter.
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01-10-2013, 11:41 AM
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The loss was "Not A Big Deal At All."
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01-10-2013, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamliner
The loss was "Not A Big Deal At All."
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Yep. Was 'just another game.'
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01-10-2013, 12:05 PM
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Speaking personally, I have learned a lot more from failure than from success.
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01-10-2013, 12:14 PM
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It's easier to motivate the players when it's clear they're not on the mountain top. And this experience should make it clear to the coaches that they need to adjust their approach to managing the team when we're favorites.
Those are positives. And definitely analogous to Bama/Utah a few years back.
Getting embarrassed in the Sugar Bowl and dropping from likely #2, to 9 or 10.... not so much.
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01-10-2013, 12:23 PM
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01-10-2013, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfpardnor2
The loss gives the Strength and Conditioning Coaches fuel to get the boys pissed off and primed to give it their all instead of reading how good they're gonna be.
It sucks to have lost that way in the Sugar Bowl, but we were in a no win situation and I see only positive things coming for 2013 from this beat down.
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If we look at this way shouldn't we hope to lose every non-national title bowl Champ makes? I mean think of the off-season motivation if we just get destroyed every January.
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01-10-2013, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikehev
No disrespect intended, but Ron Zook never came close to appearing in, much less losing a BCS bowl. Not sure that is a valid comparison.
In Christ forever,
Mike
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Actually he took a much worse team than the 2012 Gators to the Rose Bowl, and he was a great recruiter- not saying this makes him as good as Champ (better vs. Georgia though) just saying making one BCS bowl and getting killed isn't exactly proof that you're a great coach.
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01-10-2013, 02:08 PM
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I love the smell of loses in New Orleans.....smells like VICTORY!!!
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01-10-2013, 04:14 PM
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Spin it however you want, it was a complete failure of coaching to have the team that poorly prepared, with such a crappy game plan.
The only positive we can take from this is hopefully young Muschamp learned a lesson and doesn't let that happen again.
But given UF's penchant for playing down to inferior teams the last two years, you have to wonder if Muschamp will ever do a good job motivating his teams to play a middling opponent.
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01-10-2013, 04:23 PM
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Check out P D's Postulations about the Sugar Bowl. He says the Sugar Bowl this year was and is completely meaningless unless the game is for a national championship. I don't agree with this for several big reasons. This gives me a possible answer to why the Gators played four quarters of "I don't give a damn about anyone but me football". The game meant nothing to them for sure. Said Coach WM didn't pick up on this attitude until the game began because he is young and inexperienced. I don't know.
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01-10-2013, 04:25 PM
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Bring on the playoff. 8 teams. College football bowl season is meaningless save for the crystal ball.
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01-10-2013, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danielmaddie
Listening to early predictions and preseason rankings for 2013, losing the Sugar Bowl might have been the best thing to happen to this team. Obviously they play better as underdogs than favorites( which needs to be fixed) and 2013 is going to be no different now then 2012. Florida is going to be expected to finish 3rd again in the SEC East and finish 9-3. The Gators are going to be hungry and prime to surprise again in 2013.
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The only preseason poll I've seen so far, which I think was an ESPN poll, had us 10th. Much better than we were in any 2012 preseason poll, where we usually were either not ranked at all or were somewhere in the bottom 5 of the top 25.
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01-10-2013, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adgator
Sorry I am not from the Ron Zook school of coaching where he believes that losing is a good learning experience!! No reason in the world to have lost The Sugar Bowl---Gators are far superior team and even with a less then average O-Line and pass rush (that day) we win 9 out of 10 against these guys! And we didn't learn a damed thing. That game cost us being ranked # 2 team in the final polls with a good argument for # 1 since we beat the TA&M team that beat Alabama on their home field!!!!!
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This. If you asked me before that game I'd say as long as we didnt play like we did against georgia we'd have beaten bama on a neutral field.
I still believe it but holy crap did we not want to play against louisville and our coaching destroyed us that game.
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01-10-2013, 04:43 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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This is loser talk. Winning continues motivation and confidence. Winning last year's bowl against OSU was critical for our success last year.
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01-10-2013, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1gatorbear
Until Muschamp win a sec title he will always be compared to zook, a good recruiter.
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I don't think so.. just listen to the two of them talk..not even close. Did Zooker ever go 11-1 in the regular season, and get to the Sugar Bowl?
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