01-10-2013, 03:39 PM
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Wes, you make a lot of sense. I am for freedom and liberty and self reliance, once you start taking more from the government these things start to dissipate, but at any point you can go the other way if you have the means. How do some of you liberals feel about that?
Is that fair?
Do I, as a tax payer have a right to dictate to net not tax payers and entitlement users their lifestyle?
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01-10-2013, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
I never said she didn't, did I? You infered that so that takes care of that.
Can she support those kids? That is the first thing that needs to be looked at.
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"Uh, we are talking about the welfare of children. Lets see, child abuse vs. having a shot at life by possibly having parents that will care for them, love them, and give them what they need. Turning our back on the kids and subsidizing the mothers behavior accomplishes nothing. How could she even afford to feed those kids?"
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01-10-2013, 05:35 PM
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There you go. If there's a reasonable conversation going, make sure you piss on it. Congratulations.
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I didn't realize I had broken one of your personal thread rules. There is a 97% chance I'm right. One of the intentional byproducts of keeping blacks on the Democrat plantation.
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01-10-2013, 05:36 PM
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Perhaps she is a victim of her subculture?
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01-10-2013, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by busigator96
Perhaps she is a victim of her subculture?
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What precisely is that subculture, Busi ?
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01-10-2013, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gator996
"Uh, we are talking about the welfare of children. Lets see, child abuse vs. having a shot at life by possibly having parents that will care for them, love them, and give them what they need. Turning our back on the kids and subsidizing the mothers behavior accomplishes nothing. How could she even afford to feed those kids?"
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Did I say explicitly she does not love her children? Wow, just because i said they can have parents that would love them and provide a better future. You just love to infer
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01-10-2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Did I say explicitly she does not love her children? Wow, just because i said the can have parents that would love them and provide a better future. You just love to infer
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Actually, there is not enough time in the day to give them what they need, i.e., love, on an individual level, even if she is so inclined to actually "love them."
No way.
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On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
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01-10-2013, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawdog88
What precisely is that subculture, Busi ?
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Ghetto?
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
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01-10-2013, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by G8trGr8t
15 votes raised on those beliefs against my 3 kids votes being taught personal responsibility and we wonder where the country is headed
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When I compare what America was like when I was 12 years old and what it is like today [68 years old], it is like two different planets.
I only wish that my children and grandchildren could experience the America I knew as a child.
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01-10-2013, 07:47 PM
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We need more shaming, judging, and stigmatizing in this society. I got judged and shamed at my daughters 2-year checkup for admitting that I allowed her to drink a sippy cup full of OJ 1-2 times a week. Wonder if my daughter's doctor would have passed similar judgement on this pile of human excrement after say, child 6?
Cut off the govt tap. Dollars to doughnuts that families, communities, and churches will step up before too many starve to death.
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01-10-2013, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gator996
This is what you get from smaller, less intrusive goverment folks...
Whatever happened to freedom & liberty?
You can cutoff her aid... fine.
But proposing government mandated adoption?
Must be modeling your public policy on China.
And you guys call Obama the communist?

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When animals are found in squalid conditions without food or water, libbies scream bloody murder and want all the animals put up for adoption. Yet when beautiful little babies and kids are in the same situation, libbies scream about "rights". What about the rights of those kids to have a chance at a future?
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01-10-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Lets not forget the offspring's offspring and hence, the Ole pyramid scheme
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It is an exponential explosion. One person born early 60s and bred through this system has produced between 80 and 120 votes while my wife and I have created 3. Grandmothers with dozens of grandchildren at the age of 40. Either it stops or the system is going to collapse as these welfare families become more politically involved
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01-10-2013, 08:49 PM
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OK, I have reconsidered my position, abortion is ok in rape and any case in which the gene pool is weakened.
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01-11-2013, 07:14 AM
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A woman walks into the downtown Harrisburg welfare office, trailed by 15 kids.
'WOW,' the social worker exclaims, 'are they all yours?"
' Yep, they are all mine,' the flustered momma sighs, having heard that question a thousand times before.
She says, 'Sit down Leroy.' All the children rush to find seats.
Well,' says the social worker, 'then you must be here to sign up. I'll need all your children's names.'
''Well, to keep it simple, the boys are all named Leroy and the girls are all named Leighroy."
In disbelief, the case worker says, 'Are you serious? They're ALL named Leroy?'
Their momma replied, 'Well, yes-it makes it easier.
When it's time to get them out of bed and ready for school, I yell, 'Leroy!'
An' when it's time for dinner, I just yell 'Leroy!'
And they all comes a running.
An' if I need to stop the kid who's running into the street, I just yell Leroy' and all of them stop.
It's the smartest idea I ever had, namin' them all Leroy.'
The social worker thinks this over for a bit, then wrinkles her forehead and says tentatively,
'But what if you just want ONE kid to come, and not the whole bunch?'
'Then I call them by their last names.
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01-11-2013, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gatordowneast
When animals are found in squalid conditions without food or water, libbies scream bloody murder and want all the animals put up for adoption. Yet when beautiful little babies and kids are in the same situation, libbies scream about "rights". What about the rights of those kids to have a chance at a future?
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What about my rights 15 years from now when one of those kids pulls a gun on me? Wait a minute, thanks to the liberals there won't be any guns!
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01-11-2013, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by busigator96
Perhaps she is a victim of her subculture?
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She is a victim all right...of liberal lefty well intentioned policies that have aided in destroying two parent families in the black race. When it costs nothing to have the kid and your guvmint check goes up with each child, is their a reason for protection when having sex?
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01-11-2013, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by busigator96
Perhaps she is a victim of her subculture?
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She is a victim all right...of liberal lefty well intentioned policies that have aided in destroying two parent families in the black race. When it costs nothing to have the kid and your guvmint check goes up with each child...
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01-11-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gatordowneast
We are not having to pay the tab for the folks critisizing Obama on these forums or elsewhere. That is the difference. We will be paying the tab for Angel and her 15 little angels for the next 70 years and likely several generations after since those little Angels are subjected to Angel's lifestyle, philosophies and government aid schemes.
I could give a damn if people want to act irresponsibly as long as they are paying for it.
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There is a 70% chance that her children are incarcerated. Even a bigger cost ahead..
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01-11-2013, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Did I say explicitly she does not love her children? Wow, just because i said they can have parents that would love them and provide a better future. You just love to infer
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Does anyone have to infer anything here?
Child abuse vs. "what they could possibly have"...
Which one represented the mother those kids have right now?
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01-11-2013, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gator996
Does anyone have to infer anything here?
Child abuse vs. "what they could possibly have"...
Which one represented the mother those kids have right now?
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Child abuse does not have to be necessarily physical, but just the concept that she could not possibly attend to the basic needs of all her children could in and of itself be child abuse.
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