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Old 01-08-2013, 06:55 PM   #1
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I know they recruit some big dudes, but it looks like they are much bigger, and stronger than any team they play. Did anybody catch what Barrett jones looked like in High school in the ESPN pregame?

They must have a great strength and conditioning program....and ummm a great student athlete dining hall. That must explain it.

Monster offensive line that gets away with major holding on every play (I've taken to just watching their line after the ball is snapped) and you aren't going to lose often
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Barrett Jones looked like a fat!@# to me when they did a feature on him for College Gameday...
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I know they recruit some big dudes, but it looks like they are much bigger, and stronger than any team they play. Did anybody catch what Barrett jones looked like in High school in the ESPN preface?

They must have a great strength and conditioning program....and ummm a great student athlete dining hall. That must explain it.

Monster offensive line that gets away with major holding on every play (I've taken to just watching their line after the ball is snapped) and you aren't going to lose often


Having almost an entire (7) coaching staff of "football analysts" on staff is what's in the water.
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I know they recruit some big dudes, but it looks like they are much bigger, and stronger than any team they play. Did anybody catch what Barrett jones looked like in High school in the ESPN preface?

They must have a great strength and conditioning program....and ummm a great student athlete dining hall. That must explain it.

Monster offensive line that gets away with major holding on every play (I've taken to just watching their line after the ball is snapped) and you aren't going to lose often
Based on reported stats Jones bulked from 271 to 302 (hs weight to current). I'm not sure that there's anything terribly unreasonable about adding 30 pounds on his frame in the span of almost 6 years (from HS measurements to being a redshirt senior).
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Colin Cowherd, today on his show, talked about Bama's internal PED system and said he had a good source who said there has never been an issue.

I don't know what Cowherd knows but it does seem like if some other team wins - it must be because of cheating.
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Just asking. Every position....monsters (except qb). Arms the size of their opponents legs. Remarkable to recruit a team full of those. So tell me about those 7 "analysts"
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Based on reported stats Jones bulked from 271 to 302 (hs weight to current). I'm not sure that there's anything terribly unreasonable about adding 30 pounds on his frame in the span of almost 6 years (from HS measurements to being a redshirt senior).
At that age there really isn't. Jones was from Germantown and I don't recall him being heavily recruited. Bama did a lot with him. It does make me sick to see a kid from Tenn start for them. Puke.
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That's the difference between a professional approach to college football and what we pretend to be.

Yes, Bama's strength coach is young, animated, lively and gets big results...versus ours..who doesn't.
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LSU seems to do well against Bama.
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Is there PED testing in college football?
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Olympic training can yield a bulkier body type, but that mass conceals much enhanced explosive power. Think about all those Russian stocky grandfather body types clean and jerking 500 lbs in the Olympics.
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Olympic training can yield a bulkier body type, but that mass conceals much enhanced explosive power. Think about all those Russian stocky grandfather body types clean and jerking 500 lbs in the Olympics.

all humor aside, very astute point. clean jerking 500 lbs...reminds me of the old SNL skit where the arms come off. That said, when is the last time you have heard of any college football player getting busted for PEDs?? Wherever there is competition, someone is going to try and gain a competitive edge. College football has to have the most honest upstanding bunch of players out of any sport.
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Is there PED testing in college football?
Not uniformly, no, in large part because it is tremendously expensive. This is a slightly funny instance to bring it up in though, since it looks like Notre Dame may have one of the more lenient PED penalty policies (following a failed test regain eligibility as soon as testing no longer reveals the presence of drugs).

The Notre Dame anecdote (as well as some others) are from this interesting piece ESPN had on steroids in college football earlier this year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ge-steroid-use
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What's in the water? Liquid Discipline.

Plus their ability to execute in a focused manner. All kidding aside--I'm being dead serious. Think about a few observations made last night in the game thread....the Gumps made tackles the way they are supposed to be made, and then got up and walked right back to the huddle to do it all over again. That in and of itself doesn't explain the bulk we see when the Tide takes the field, but that same discipline carries over to their training and weight program I am guessing. They take their program extremely serious and stay focused--both in the training room and most surely on the field.

No showboating--no "me-me-me" attitudes and thug actions, just get down to business and get it done. Whether bulking up or running reps or beating the snot out of their opponents. It all comes down to that mental toughness Muschamp talks about trying to accomplish. Only difference is Bama actually follows through with it and has had more time to perfect it. We are just getting started on the foundation--it won't be long till others will hopefully say the same about us.

Biggest problem I see is the attitude thing. Seems we have always had a few more showboaters than many other teams, while Bama has rid themselves of that stigma for some time now.

Discipline--that is what is in the water down there. And it works.
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steroids. so obvious.
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steroids. so obvious.
As opposed to UM, where the water only has boats full of hookers in it.
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Barrett Jones hate to say it, is not on steroids. Trust me, I've known linemen who do it, that is just being really tall, and really fat... He eats a lot that is all, might take supplements, but not steroids.. As for the rest... Weeeelllllllll...
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I'm sure there are a lot of pharmacology labs there. I'd love to see them get tested for steroids and Human growth hormones.
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That's the difference between a professional approach to college football and what we pretend to be.

Yes, Bama's strength coach is young, animated, lively and gets big results...versus ours..who doesn't.
Dillman has done wonders to this team this year and it shows, just like your posts shows how it should be nominated as the worst of 2013
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how many more people are going to bitch about the damn players jawing at eachother? good freaking lord....
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