2012 was warmest year in U.S. history

[PITBOSS]

More scientific evidence of global warming.


"scientists from the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C., announced Tuesday. The past year smashed the previous record for the warmest year, which was 1998.

The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3 degrees, 3.2 degrees above the 20th century average, and 1 degree above 1998."



http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...-2012/1817841/

[ThePlayer]

Check this place out.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...195717230.html

[The_Graygator]

Thankfully, the Earth has acually been cooling for the past decade or so.

Good news!

[FrolfGator]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

Thankfully, the Earth has acually been cooling for the past decade or so.Good news!

Who fed you that B.S.?

[WESGATORS]

Weather was phenomenal here in FLORIDA last winter, I hope we have another similar winter. I know the people not getting any snow in Chicago may be upset, but I know most here are loving it. Even got to go swimming in the Gulf on Christmas day.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

[gatorman_07732]

Good lord, are we really going with this stuff....again
Have to fear, Obama is issuing and executive order that all peons (peeps not in government) have to now give up their automobiles and drive golf carts.

[ChartsandGrafs]

But there's no evidence global warming is man-made. Correlation isn't causation. And no, thousands of scientists believing in it doesn't make it true.

That only makes it a religion.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

But there's no evidence global warming is man-made. Correlation isn't causation. And no, thousands of scientists believing in it doesn't make it true.

That only makes it a religion.

Well there is when you have political interests

[mdgator05]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

But there's no evidence global warming is man-made. Correlation isn't causation. And no, thousands of scientists believing in it doesn't make it true.

That only makes it a religion.

Correlation is a basis for determining causation.

So what sort of science would convince you? We have macro-level evidence, the correlation to which you referred. We have micro-level evidence, as the greenhouse effect is pretty well established. So what type of evidence would convince you?

[jimgata]

It has to get hotter as we develop. The more asphalt poured on the ground, the more homes and buildings that exist, it will get hotter. They all hold heat. I wonder if nighttime temps have risen more than daytime temps ,as all construction will hold heat during the night. I bet the nighttime temps have risen more than a minute day temp.

[ChartsandGrafs]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

Correlation is a basis for determining causation.

So what sort of science would convince you? We have macro-level evidence, the correlation to which you referred. We have micro-level evidence, as the greenhouse effect is pretty well established. So what type of evidence would convince you?

It doesn't exist yet. We don't fully understand how our planet's climate system functions. That's why the advanced computer models we create to predict changes in climate are often in need of revision. From what I understand, there are too many unidentified/unknown variables involved.

Political and economic policy based on faulty or incomplete information is foolhardy at best, and criminal at worst.

[mdgator05]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

It doesn't exist yet. We don't fully understand how our planet's climate system functions. That's why the advanced computer models we create to predict changes in climate are often in need of revision. From what I understand, there are too many unidentified/unknown variables involved.

Political and economic policy based on faulty or incomplete information is foolhardy at best, and criminal at worst.

So who gets to decide when we "fully" understand something? Because in the dictionary sense of the word, we never fully understand everything. That is how science works.

[boligator]

The fact is the planet is warming. The studies quantify this. However, the real question is how do we, as a rational global society address this? Natural warming cycle or man induced should not be the core of the debate. The core of the debate should be how do we confront this. The population of the earth is exploding, approaching 10 billion very fast. Very fast. Resources are not infinite, they are finite. And the planet is getting warmer. Again, natural or man made is not important. What is important is how we will confront this problem and what we will do to avoid the catastrophic results if we do nothing.

[LittleBlueLW]

Birth control and stop propping up 3rd world countries. The more we try to help advance them, the more we destroy our planet.

No more meds for high blood pressure, no cancer treatment and no life support.

Save the planet through survival of the fittest.

[Palhaco1]

Hasn't the earth slowly been warming since the last ice age? Long before carbon emissions and such?

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

So who gets to decide when we "fully" understand something? Because in the dictionary sense of the word, we never fully understand everything. That is how science works.

The fear is that the bar is pretty low before we start spending lots and lots of money.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by boligator

The fact is the planet is warming. The studies quantify this. However, the real question is how do we, as a rational global society address this? Natural warming cycle or man induced should not be the core of the debate. The core of the debate should be how do we confront this. The population of the earth is exploding, approaching 10 billion very fast. Very fast. Resources are not infinite, they are finite. And the planet is getting warmer. Again, natural or man made is not important. What is important is how we will confront this problem and what we will do to avoid the catastrophic results if we do nothing.

I know this probably makes you want to tear your hair out, but let's wait until we hit 10-billion and see what happens. Part of reason for my wait-and-see mindset is that the doomsayers are almost always wrong.

[GatorRade]

Originally Posted by PITBOSS

More scientific evidence of global warming.


"scientists from the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C., announced Tuesday. The past year smashed the previous record for the warmest year, which was 1998.

The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3 degrees, 3.2 degrees above the 20th century average, and 1 degree above 1998."



http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...-2012/1817841/

Certainly not evidence of 'global' warming (as this is just the US), but very interesting indeed. Scientific American had a very interesting article last month on how global warming and US winters are linked. The basis was that lack of sea ice, caused by global warming, is likely to allow Arctic air to invade the US and Europe causing harsher regional winters (but warmer Arctic winters). The opposite was true last year, where the US was quite warm, but the Alaska recorded below normal temps.

[Burke]

"It's official: 2012 marked the warmest year on record for the USA, . . ."

First, "on record" is not the same as "in history" as the OP claimed.

They've only been keeping records for, what, about 125 yrs. How warm was it here 700 years ago during the Medieval Warm Period? Or during the warming of the Roman times?

We've been coming out of the Little Ice Age for nearly all of that time.

Second, there has been no GLOBAL warming for the last 16 years, according to the UK Met office, frequently quoted by the UN as its source of information for temperatures.

You don't have to be a climate expert to see through these sort of ruses.

[corpgator]

Correlation doesn't prove causation, but it gives plenty of evidence to support it.