Civil War In The US?

[Burke]

First time I've seen this on a major network, discussing civil war as if it's only a matter of time:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2H35m4sbt

[rivergator]

remember it is fox.

[ChartsandGrafs]

More stuff along those lines. Interesting to contemplate.

Most of the downtown shops, in fact, weren’t doing much business except the two gun stores. I’d been in one several days ago to pick a .22LR for an article I’d be writing for Shooting Illustrated, and decided to stop in at the other to see what the current political environment had left behind.

There were no less than six clerks working feverishly with the dozen or so customers, so I simply stepped to the side and walked the aisles. The cases of ammunition that typically lined the far wall were picked to pieces. There was a 100-round case of .50 BMG, and cases of European shotshells suitable for small game. The .223 Remington, 5.56 NATO, 7.62×39, 7.62 NATO, and 7.62x54R had sold out long ago, along with the bulk 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP.

A few pump shotguns remained along with a smattering of deer rifles, single-shots, and longer double-barreled shotguns suitable only for trap or skeet. Even the semi-automatic .22LR rifles like Ruger 10/22s were gone, along with all but one BX-25 magazine.

The customers in the shop were picking through what remained; lever-action rifles, oddball shotguns, and the smattering of name-brand centerfire pistols. One man was attempting to trade in an antique double-barrel shotgun for something more current.

I did speak to one harried clerk, briefly.

They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand.It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands , M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war.

http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/som...o-the-tyranny/

[ChartsandGrafs]

The Great Gun Buying Sales Surge continues. Actually, that’s not strictly true. The pace of ammunition and firearms sales has slowed to a crawl. The product pipeline has run dry. Bass Pro Shop in Foxboro Massachusetts is sold out of all popular ammo calibers: 9mm, .45, .38, .40, .223 and, get this, .22. As is every Bass Pro Shop in the Northeast. The sales guys report it’s now a case of just-in-time purchasing. “I put ammo on the shelves, I turn around and it’s gone,” a not-so-hassled anymore salesman told me. The firearm situation is no better. ARs? Nope. None. Smith and Wesson handguns are obvious by their absence. OK, there’s one S&W 460. Otherwise, you can have any handgun you want as long as it’s a Ruger revolver or a [very lonely] Walther. Anecdotal evidence suggest the Northeast is not alone. And the Foxboro sales manager reckons there’s no end in sight. Or, more precisely, no start point for attaining normal inventory levels.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...earms-related/

[Swampmaster]

if there is war, which side should I join? north, south, east, west?

[rpmGator]

We have had gun sale runs before. It is more of an indication to stock up before they ban something, than a want for war with the guy across the street.

[ChartsandGrafs]

Nobody outside of government wants war, but it's pretty obvious the government has not only prepared for war with the American people (militarized all major police departments across the country, is intercepting and monitoring over 1.5 billion pieces of electronic communications each day, has put on the books every Executive Order necessary to declare martial law and create an Executive Branch dictatorship, is buying up billions of rounds of ammunition for use by domestic alphabet agencies, etc...), but is also inching closer towards taking steps that will lead to direct conflict (gun bans).

The government hasn't made all these preparations just for the heck of it, and it sure as hell has nothing to do with that phoney war on terror scam they've been running the last ten years. These preparations are for us, after some unknown event occurs, if it ever does. It could be an economic collapse and a second Great Depression, or a staged false flag event of some type, or a surprise gun ban and seizures, or just garden-variety insurrection like we've seen in other places around the world recently.

Interesting times ahead. I recommend people prepare themselves mentally, if not in physical, financial, and material ways.

[mocgator]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

if there is war, which side should I join? north, south, east, west?

Abacos..

[egator1245]

Sad, the man who said he would unite the country instead presides over this.

[ChartsandGrafs]

I also think these recent shootings are awfully suspicious. The government didn't spend all that money and time on MK-ULTRA mind control experiments for nothing back in the 50s and 60s. It's almost certain they wanted to have the ability to create a limitless pool of so-called "Manchurian Candidate" assassins who could be drugged, hypnotized, or programmed to carry out almost any order on command, including assassinations.

What better way to galvanize support for gun control legislation than carrying out a quick string of shocking public shootings utilizing your pool of drugged-out, MK-ULTRA killers? Follow it up with some corporate media propaganda about the perpetrator being a "lone wolf", present absolutely no evidence to the public, and presto, half the country will be so traumatized and scared, they'll support any measure you propose.

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by egator1245

Sad, the man who said he would unite the country instead presides over this.

right. it's Obama's fault because some nutjobs who have no idea what this country is about want civil war.

[108]

If you can't win the ballot box, fight?!

[ChartsandGrafs]

Originally Posted by egator1245

Sad, the man who said he would unite the country instead presides over this.

No, it's not sad that he said it. After all, he's the political equivalent of a used car salesman. It was his job to get elected. That's why his billionaire handlers financed his campaign and marketed him as a messiah on their cable channels.

What's sad, is the American people believed him when he said it. Any person with a brain the size of a walnut could see that he was being pushed heavily by the big corporate media in 2008. That should have been their first and only red flag. Why else would the American corporate establishment push Obama so energetically? He was their hired gun.

[wgbgator]

I'm not sure what is funnier, that some people actually think Civil War is a possibility or that some people seem to be trying to almost will it into fruition by talking endlessly about it (these being many of the same people who "felt" the Romney momentum and his coming electoral landslide win).

[ChartsandGrafs]

What's impossible about a Civil War in this country?

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

What's impossible about a Civil War in this country?

Well, first there would probably need to be something to fight and kill over other than losing an election.

[PIMking]

President Obama, the Gun salesman of the year

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

Well, first there would probably need to be something to fight and kill over other than losing an election.

yeah, there's that.

[Burke]

I think we are going to have an economic collapse. What comes of it is less certain.

But people are learning that we really aren't a democracy and that the same govt that demands our obedience is in no way obedient to the Constitution.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

Nobody outside of government wants war, but it's pretty obvious the government has not only prepared for war with the American people (militarized all major police departments across the country, is intercepting and monitoring over 1.5 billion pieces of electronic communications each day, has put on the books every Executive Order necessary to declare martial law and create an Executive Branch dictatorship, is buying up billions of rounds of ammunition for use by domestic alphabet agencies, etc...), but is also inching closer towards taking steps that will lead to direct conflict (gun bans).

The government hasn't made all these preparations just for the heck of it, and it sure as hell has nothing to do with that phoney war on terror scam they've been running the last ten years. These preparations are for us, after some unknown event occurs, if it ever does. It could be an economic collapse and a second Great Depression, or a staged false flag event of some type, or a surprise gun ban and seizures, or just garden-variety insurrection like we've seen in other places around the world recently.

Interesting times ahead. I recommend people prepare themselves mentally, if not in physical, financial, and material ways.

Dont forget the millions of rounds that the SSI admin bought... Why would SSI need all that ammo?