Where does the ND hate come from?

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by secgator

Everyone realizes most of the schedules are made up years in advance and trying to control the power of the opponents are impossibilities. BUT--if they were to get off their arrogant high horse and become one of the conference memebers of some conference--hell, ANY conference--then perhaps there will be a degree of respect and tolerance given them. Until then...they can keep their arrogant attitudes with them as they hopefully lose every game they play for eternity. And then some.

I'm not trying to defend them, but what conference should they join?

Would joining the Big 10, ACC, Big East, Big 12, PAC 12 earn them any respect around here?

Unless they joined the SEC, I don't see where it would make any difference in how they were regarded.

[gtr2x]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I'm not trying to defend them, but what conference should they join?

Would joining the Big 10, ACC, Big East, Big 12, PAC 12 earn them any respect around here?

Unless they joined the SEC, I don't see where it would make any difference in how they were regarded.

Big 10 or big east. Joining acc is a joke. Of course the way the big east is going same could be said for them.

[gatorev12]

Originally Posted by secgator

Their SOS is still only ranked 30th by most folks...sorry, but whether or not they played 2 BCS bowl teams this year is a virtual moot point. Their overall schedule still...sucks. And HAS--for numerous years. Being at the 30th mark is one of their higher years, certainly not a negative anomoly--it is the rare exception that it is THIS strong.

Everyone realizes most of the schedules are made up years in advance and trying to control the power of the opponents are impossibilities. BUT--if they were to get off their arrogant high horse and become one of the conference memebers of some conference--hell, ANY conference--then perhaps there will be a degree of respect and tolerance given them. Until then...they can keep their arrogant attitudes with them as they hopefully lose every game they play for eternity. And then some.

You know...certain haters still rip on Florida for "not playing an OOC game outside the state of Florida for xxx" number of years. Which is a singularly meaningless and ridiculously stupid accusation to hurl at us considering our overall strength of schedule every year for the last 20 years.

Your post has more in common with the people who hate on the Gators purely for the sake of hating on them than any sense of objectivity.

ND schedules and plays tough teams every year...and many of their other games are locked-in with traditional rivals who've been historically good, but have slipped within the last 10-15 years.

If suddenly UGAy, f$u, Tennessee, South Carolina, and LSU were to all become also-rans on the college football scene and we were left with only two games on the schedule that were actually competitive (let's just say Bama and Missouri--for argument's sake)...would that make it the Gators' responsibility to switch conferences in order to find a more challenging slate of games? Something tells me everyone on this board would say "hell no" and not care what anyone else thinks. For certain, we've never really cared what anyone has had to say about the previous "no OOC games outside of Florida" line of thought for at least a decade now.

For the record, I was rooting for Bama tonight too. Just can't excuse ridiculously shallow arguments.

[secgator]

^^^ call the argument shallow if you will, the fact their schedule is pathetic showed tonight. The proof was in the pudding so to speak--they were utterly embarressed and humiliated without question.

I truly believe it was due to their expectations being what they are--ND honestly expected to go out and win that game because they ARE Notre Dame. Their season of squeakers against mediocre competition finally bore its fruit--a slaughter of epic proportions at the hand of a team who IS in a conference where the level of competition far exceeds that of the miraculous Notre Dame Folding Irish. While your point about them not being able to control their level of competition due to slippage and so forth may be true to a point--ND could damn well have the balls and humility to join at the very least, a conference which requires them to win a damn championship game and actually earning their way through a conference schedule. But no--they choose to remain independent with a locked in deal with the BCS which allows them the ability to make it to a BCS bowl and all the money which goes along with it. They don't have to acutally 'prove' themselves on the field--just basically show up all season and do half ass to find themselves in a BCS bowl. Pathetic.

I am elated that they were not only beaten tonight, they were slaughtered in a manner which should leave every ND fan, player, and alumni holding their heads in complete shame. Alabama destroyed them on the field exposing the Folding Irish for what they are--posers and frauds in the college football landscape. May they relive this debacle every night in their worst nightmares for the rest of their lives until the day they finally display some sense of acceptance for what a pitiful disgrace they are, and make an attempt to become part of the status quo in the football world, having to earn their shot same as every other team competing for titles instead of having it bestowed upon them for the mere reason they are...in their own minds....'the chosen ones'.

Screw ND.

[oragator1]

ND is allowed to play by their own rules based off of glory that happened before most here were even born. Their own TV network, their own set of rules for the BCS, which of course allows them to stay independent and be "special" in perpetuity.
Every year, because of their national name they end up over ranked both before and during the season. And many of their fans still think it's 1963 and they are the center of CFB. Add to that the almost supernatural luck and breaks they got this year against a weak schedule and they didn't lose by enough for me.
Of course now they will be top 5 preseason next year even though they lose 29 seniors, so we will have to hear it all again for another 8 months.

[secgator]

Originally Posted by oragator1

Of course now they will be top 5 preseason next year even though they lose 29 seniors, so we will have to hear it all again for another 8 months.

Just think how bad it WOULD have been if ND had actually won the game tonight?? In the other thread about the hate of ND, it was brought up so many times how the younger folks don't understand what it was like back in the 60s and 70s and the lovefest for ND.....it would have been off the charts in todays media world if ND had won tonight.

Be glad we will hear only what we will hear for another 8 months as you said---it could have been worse. Much worse.

[GatorLaw]

"Where does the ND hate come from?"

Games like last night's.

[LimeyGator]

I think we should start a new thread that says:

"Where did all the ND pity come from?"

I can name it. It'll be watching Brian Kelly beg Alabama not to come out for the second half... ha, that was beautiful!

[gator0316]

proably from the cream puff teams they play every year and backing their way into title game,well we all knew what was coming as they should have lost two or three games to the cram puffs .problem is they will keep playing the weak sisters and will be a threat at title game every year.i guess they will get plowed lot.

[rpmGator]

Beating Pitt, who got rocked by Ole Miss, is not a reason to be voted number one.

[HungaryGator]

Mushmouth sounded like he was suffering from a severe case of coitus interruptus.



Media fap fest CANCELLED! AH!!!!!!

[cocodrilo]

Originally Posted by rpmGator

Beating Pitt, who got rocked by Ole Miss, is not a reason to be voted number one.

Didn't it take them three overtimes (and some angels playing zebras) to do it?

[MaceoP]

A picture is worth a thousand words..

Simple answer is unjustified media hype

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by gtr2x

Big 10 or big east. Joining acc is a joke. Of course the way the big east is going same could be said for them.

I don't think they would have won the ACC this year as much as we deservedly rag on EJ he's a better QB than anyone they've faced, and Taj Boyd would've been unfair.

[gatorev12]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

I don't think they would have won the ACC this year as much as we deservedly rag on EJ he's a better QB than anyone they've faced, and Taj Boyd would've been unfair.

Landry Jones is a far better QB than EJ Manuel...and additionally, ND rocked the ACC teams they played this year (Miami, Boston College, and Wake Forest) by as-big or greater margins of victory than f$u or Clemson playing those same teams. Those 3 ACC teams scored a grand total of 9 points on ND.

We saw what happened when f$u played a defense with a pulse and though ND got shredded by Bama, I highly doubt f$u would have put up those numbers on them--especially with as turnover-prone as the noles tend to be.