Charley Strong could be at UT right now

[Angaza]

Seems like his reason to stay at UL was out of loyalty of giving him his first coaching job. Hopefully the Louisville AD doesn't do what FIU's did and fire him after a slight downturn.

[GatorLaw]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Was/is there any doubt that Strong is a great coach?

Yes, there is. I don't even know that he's a very good coach. Look at all the talent Louisville obviously has. And with that kind of talent Louisville struggled in almost every game they played this year against medicore to bad Big East competition. That to me doesn't speak well of Strong at all. In fact it reminds me a little of FSU and Dumbo - good recruiting, not so good coaching.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Was/is there any doubt that Strong is a great coach?

ummm.....I believe the jury is still out on whether he's a good head coach.

[gtr2x]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

ummm.....I believe the jury is still out on whether he's a good head coach.

Really? What exactly does it take then to be a "good" coach, not even a great coach. 10 wins, conference champ, sugar bowl win, etc. BTW, he is the one that recruited Bridgewater. There may be doubt as to Strong being a great coach, but to me there is no doubt that he is at least a very good coach.

Is Muschamp a good coach?

[trekcid]

The Sugar Bowl game was a lot closer than most think. Take back the pass play at the beginning of the game that was a pick 6. Take back the INT at the goal line and get some
points out of that drive and you have a different ball game. even though Louisville QB had
a good night those two plays made the difference.

[NorthCaptivaGator]

Originally Posted by GatorChamp96

The next job Charlie will get will be at South Carolina... That is a job he will leave for, unless for some reason Muschamp doesn't work out here. Notre Dame might be possible as well if Kelly ever left (don't see that happening as well).. My feelings are is that Charlie will go to SC when Steve Spurrier hangs it up.

Always felt the same

[whitelakegator]

Originally Posted by GatorLaw

Yes, there is. I don't even know that he's a very good coach. Look at all the talent Louisville obviously has. And with that kind of talent Louisville struggled in almost every game they played this year against medicore to bad Big East competition. That to me doesn't speak well of Strong at all. In fact it reminds me a little of FSU and Dumbo - good recruiting, not so good coaching.

And how many games did WE struggle in?

Just curious if you put the same criteria next to CWM?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by gtr2x

Really? What exactly does it take then to be a "good" coach, not even a great coach. 10 wins, conference champ, sugar bowl win, etc. BTW, he is the one that recruited Bridgewater. There may be doubt as to Strong being a great coach, but to me there is no doubt that he is at least a very good coach.

Is Muschamp a good coach?

Head Coach is what's in question. Great recruiter ? Sure. Great defensive mind? Sure. Good/Great head coach? Can't answer. As somebody already mentioned, he has one signature win and we gave it to him. Also, who exactly are those wins against? Big East Champs? Really.....What's next, Jimbos the bomb because they won the Acc.

Muschamp falls into the same category. Great recruiter, great defensive mind, and a head coach grade in progress although given this years turn around against our schedule I'd give him the big edge.

Saying the jury is still out on Strong isn't a slam nor do I believe it's even questionable. He got a hell of a QB and won a weak conference and IMO beat a non focused Gator team.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

And how many games did WE struggle in?

Just curious if you put the same criteria next to CWM?

Did you even bother comparing the entire body of work?

[FriendlyGator]

Well after watching the Sugar Bowl Tennessee fans are hurling as well. They are sick over the fact their A.D. screwed that one up and didn't make Charlie a deal he could not refuse.

It might be harder than normal to get Charlie away from Louisville, because they gave him a shot when school after school after school turned him down again and again. The Tennessee A.D. should have known that and made the offer too attractive. I tend to think Charlie will now be at Louisville until a premiere program swoops in and makes him a true big time offer. He is now proven as a head coach so that he should be on what I would call a "starter salary."

[gator1986]

Originally Posted by themistocles

HERE, HERE.

However, as he noted, he is a Black coach with a White wife, and there is an INCREDIBLE amount of prejudice in this country, almost everywhere.

Most white folk are mostley oblivious to this, but every Black well knows of what I speak.

Uh what

[PIMking]

Glad he isn't in Knoxville

[gatorich]

Two things I was glad of after watching the Sugar Bowl.
1. That I too was very happy how UT screwed up the hiring of Strong and he was staying at Louisville.
2. That LSU screwed up the recruitment of Teddy Bridgewater and HE was not the QB for the Tigers.

Originally Posted by Nicho

Dream, you used to be a rational poster. Not sure what happened.

Originally Posted by born2beagator

The sugar bowl.

I've noticed this too, and it started before the Sugar Bowl. Used to enjoy his posts.

[dawny]

The Gator Nation did not give Coach Strong a wimp of a chance to coach UF,now everyone wants him Louiville will keep him for a long time because of his 1st chance and being honest to Charlie,if our passing game/offense does not get in gear we will be searching for a new HC soon, great season by both Coaches,thank you.

[GatorLaw]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

And how many games did WE struggle in?

Just curious if you put the same criteria next to CWM?

Of course I do. WM has been here for two years. I wouldn't say that he's a great coach. I think he might become one, just as Charlie Strong might become one. But neither has been a head coach long enough at this point to say they're "great."

People who think Charlie Strong is a great coach because he beat us in the Sugar Bowl have short memories. They don't remember the times when Charlie Strong was being bashed when he was here for not even being a good DC. Someone should go back and read the opinions expressed about him in some of those years, especially 2007, before they talk about how great he is.

[gatorlaw71]

The jury may be out on who is a good coach or not, but the jury is in on one issue: Charlie Strong took Louisville, which was cannon fodder in college football, and built it into a program that absolutely thrashed an 11-1 Florida team in the Sugar Bowl.

[CHFG8R]

[quote=Nicho;6292054]Very good points, Brodeur. Recency bias is strong on the boards right now.

UL had an overwhelming psychological edge coming into this game. You had:

1) players with chips on their shoulders b/c many were from FL and didn't get offered by the Big 3
2) a coach with a chip on his shoulder for not being offered the HC gig at UF
3) a conference with a chip on its shoulder for being completely dismissed relative to the SEC
4) a team galvanized by the fact that its head coach stayed instead of taking a more prestigious gig
5) a team galvanized by the fact that it was playing in one of the biggest games in its program's history (only the 2nd BCS bowl for UL).

Sometimes, due to factors out of your control, you just walk into a buzzsaw. That's what happened to us on Wednesday night. LSU faced a similar situation having to play a Clemson team that was hellbent on erasing the memory of its previous bowl game against WVU.[/QUOTE]

See 2006 National Championship.


Also, you think he had a chip against us for not offering him the job? Consensus thought - on this board at least - was that he as at L-Ville too short a time and wouldn't have left. He was, however, my first choice and IMO brought as much (and more) than Muschamp.

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by GatorLaw

Yes, there is. I don't even know that he's a very good coach. Look at all the talent Louisville obviously has. And with that kind of talent Louisville struggled in almost every game they played this year against medicore to bad Big East competition. That to me doesn't speak well of Strong at all. In fact it reminds me a little of FSU and Dumbo - good recruiting, not so good coaching.

Could you not say the very same thing about us and "lesser opponents" Louisville aside?

[whitelakegator]

This thread reeks of sour grapes. Strong exposed most if not all of our weaknesses. He did a great job outcoaching our guy. Not sure what there is to argue about.

We still had a decent year. I would have said GREAT year but that egg was too big to ignore. let's hope we keep it up.

[SavageGator]

Ask Phil Fulmer and Johnny Majors about fan expectations not causing their firings. Why did
the pampered prince Kiffin jump for USC if the fans were wonderful in Knoxville?