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Old 01-04-2013, 01:46 PM   #41
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The Louisville players probably come from the same "social culture" as our players. Many came from the same high schools. Yet they were in control, disciplined, and didn't have a lot of stupid penalties. I could understand if they did gloat a little- since no one gave them a chance and they made the #3 team in the USA look like a MAC team- but they didn't.

No- it goes back to coaches expectations and leadership. The coach sets the rules and expectations, and the players will follow, or they won't be on the team any longer.

One more thing- if we had the discipline that Louisville had we'd probably be undefeated this year. Or at least we'd have won the 2 we lost. We were out of control and very undisciplined vs UGA and Louisville, and lost both games.

I know some like to see us gloat, and the players obviously love to trashtalk and play undisciplined, but I'd rather see us stay humble and win another MNC.

Again- Champ should give a call to Charlie Strong this offseason and get some tips on bowl motivation and discipline. Because he could learn a thing or 2.
We lost to uga because of 6 TURNOVERS. People have to stop trying to put the loss on trash talking its ridiculous.
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:49 PM   #42
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We lost to uga because of 6 TURNOVERS. People have to stop trying to put the loss on trash talking its ridiculous.
But so is the trash talking. . . especially when getting your ass handed to you by a nearly unranked team that tied for its conference championship in one of the worst conferences in the USA.

Worst of all, it reminds me of F$U and Miami and it's embarrassing. It certainly has nothing to do with one's ability to win as I don't see Alabama players doing this nearly as often as ours. Or, maybe I just dont' watch enough of Alabama.
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But so is the trash talking. . . especially when getting your ass handed to you by a nearly unranked team that tied for its conference championship in one of the worst conferences in the USA.

Worst of all, it reminds me of F$U and Miami and it's embarrassing. It certainly has nothing to do with one's ability to win as I don't see Alabama players doing this nearly as often as ours. Or, maybe I just dont' watch enough of Alabama.
They were losing a football game they were not getting beat up. I am fine with cutting out all of the trash talking when we win and when we lose. Do I think it will happen? No.

I dont think CWM is going to stop it he was a trash talker as a player and he has that kind of personality as a coach. The staff's favorite players are the biggest trash talkers on the team.

But people have to stop acting like we lost a game because of it.
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They were losing a football game they were not getting beat up. I am fine with cutting out all of the trash talking when we win and when we lose. Do I think it will happen? No.

I dont think CWM is going to stop it he was a trash talker as a player and he has that kind of personality as a coach. The staff's favorite players are the biggest trash talkers on the team.

But people have to stop acting like we lost a game because of it.
I think it's more of the attitude that people are blaming, not the trash talking per se. It's not that there is trash talking, it is that guys are strutting like peacocks and trash talking when their TEAM is down by 20 points to a perceived inferior opponent. That shows immaturity at best...and complete lack of respect for the team or the reputation of the school they represent at worst. It's a "me first" attitude that can erode the concept of team in probably the most team oriented sport there is. While it is not the cause, it may be the best indicator of the cause.
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You would think an athlete of all people would know not to kick someone when they were down.
Screw you, Chipper, your illegitimate kid, and your bevy of mistresses, big shot.
Chipper loves the Gators..... What he said was exactly how I feel too. Sick of people trying to kill the messenger.
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I think it's more of the attitude that people are blaming, not the trash talking per se. It's not that there is trash talking, it is that guys are strutting like peacocks and trash talking when their TEAM is down by 20 points to a perceived inferior opponent. That shows immaturity at best...and complete lack of respect for the team or the reputation of the school they represent at worst. It's a "me first" attitude that can erode the concept of team in probably the most team oriented sport there is. While it is not the cause, it may be the best indicator of the cause.
They have played like that all year. They have been a team all year. My favorite part of this years team is how much of a team they have been. It was not a me first attitude, people want to try and make it seems that way but that is not why they lost the game.
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People, we lost because we tried turning into a passing team in 15 practices when we were a ground and pound team all year long! Is it Chipper's fault he pointed out our teams ill preparedness for this game?

I think it's (all) our coaches fault.
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We lost to uga because of 6 TURNOVERS.
6 turnovers falls into the undisciplined category
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I sure would hate to be his own kid. The bastard one, I mean.
When I went to UF, all students were required to take a class in Logic, where we learned that attacking the person instead of their argument is called an Ad Hominem Attack, which, as my professor said, "is a second-rate substitute for actually knowing what you're talking about."
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And............ it's very immature and childish.
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Huh, I didn't know that Chipper was a Gator fan...bad on me.

What he said was true. For me the loss doesn't really hurt, it's the way we got out played and out coached that hurts.

It was basically just an exhibition game, but we reverted right back to the 2011 team in many ways.
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For me, I'd rather our team leave out the trash talking, boasting antics and just concentrate on playing at their best. I would laugh at sow and scum for doing the same thing, they'd showboat after a big hit and yet the scoreboard made them look like fools.

I get it with WM he's an emotional coach. But I can't believe he is happy with the show boating and pushing and lack of discipline. If he is that's disapointing. I am all for being a blue collar hard nosed tough team when it comes to actual playing, but I will speak out when we do undisciplined antics on the field and maybe enough people will let him know it's not to our liking if Gator Nation feels the same way. Let scum and sow be the thug show boating schools.
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Huh, I didn't know that Chipper was a Gator fan...bad on me.

What he said was true. For me the loss doesn't really hurt, it's the way we got out played and out coached that hurts.

It was basically just an exhibition game, but we reverted right back to the 2011 team in many ways.
Yeah, he's from Florida and he's a huge Gator fan.
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With the morally bankrupt social culture that most of these kids come from......no coach in the country is going to control them. Period.
All kinds of regressive dog whistles in this idiotic post. Do we have a "ignore" button at Swamp Gas? Whats next p'cola? Rock n Roll is the devils music?

Back to the op, Remember Spurrier benching his star player Jabar Gaffney for the throat slash? Never saw the crap I saw on the field from Gator players before. Not under Spurrier, Zook, or Meyer.... acting like they played for Miami under Dennis Erickson. It was disgusting.
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I get it with WM he's an emotional coach. But I can't believe he is happy with the show boating and pushing and lack of discipline. If he is that's disapointing. I am all for being a blue collar hard nosed tough team when it comes to actual playing, but I will speak out when we do undisciplined antics on the field and maybe enough people will let him know it's not to our liking if Gator Nation feels the same way. Let scum and sow be the thug show boating schools.
Did Coach Muschamp strut around much as a player at georgia? I, too, hope he is as upset about this as the majority of our posters seem to be.
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All kinds of regressive dog whistles in this idiotic post. Do we have a "ignore" button at Swamp Gas? Whats next p'cola? Rock n Roll is the devils music?
Mama say foosball the debbil!
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If Chipper was so eager to see the Gators play well he would have shared a little HGH from his stash.
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Bitching

bitch
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noun
1.
a female dog: The bitch won first place in the sporting dogs category.
2.
a female of canines generally.
3.
Slang.
a.
a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person, especially a woman.
b.
a lewd woman.
c.
Disparaging and Offensive. any woman.
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Slang. a person who performs demeaning tasks for another; servant: Tom is so her bitch; she just ordered him to go fetch her some pizza—and he went without a word.
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Slang. a convict who is in a homosexual relationship and/or dominant relationship willingly or unwillingly in the prison setting: The new inmate was immediately forced to be the bitch of the prison's top dog.
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Not sure you got that in the right thread.
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