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Old 01-03-2013, 10:16 PM   #1
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Colorado banks in a 3 with .1 secs left which replay clearly shows on the side angle, yet refs say no good. What a joke..Refs save Zona one mo time.
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Did Colorado get hosed? Probably, but then they lost a double digit lead in both halves, and had an 8-point lead with about 85 seconds left. The referees also didn't call the shot good at the end of regulation, and immediately went to the monitor. And usually, the most conclusive look is the one from directly behind the opposite basket. That's this shot:



Compare the two images. On the first, the red light isn't on, and the ball is off. In the second, the red light is on, and the ball is inconclusive. What do you call? Guess the referees thought it too was inconclusive, and since nobody called the shot good at the end, they went to overtime. Personally, I'm thankful for the win, but I think the referees got it wrong.
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Watched it. Terrible call. Looked good live.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:24 AM   #6
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The first picture is the better angle, but it's tough to tell for sure given how blurry his hand is. My best guess is that it's off in time, but it's not 100%. Kudos to AzCatFan for being objective.
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Did Colorado get hosed? Probably, but then they lost a double digit lead in both halves, and had an 8-point lead with about 85 seconds left. The referees also didn't call the shot good at the end of regulation, and immediately went to the monitor. And usually, the most conclusive look is the one from directly behind the opposite basket. That's this shot:

Compare the two images. On the first, the red light isn't on, and the ball is off. In the second, the red light is on, and the ball is inconclusive. What do you call? Guess the referees thought it too was inconclusive, and since nobody called the shot good at the end, they went to overtime. Personally, I'm thankful for the win, but I think the referees got it wrong.
Just watched the highlights. Looks like they did call it good initially. At least that's what one of the refs signaled. It was a bad call regardless. But give Arizona credit for coming back after being down big. They seem to be making a habit of that which tells me they are a tough team. At some point a critical call/bounce won't go their way though and I'll rather have good karma in March than now.
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The shot was initially counted. The call was overturned - and it was ridiculous. Also, you can't use an angle where you are looking at the play from behind - no perspective. If you look at the profile shots it is clear that the ball was out of his hands.
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It was a bad call. You can see in the replay the ref on the near side of the court signals a FG with his hands after the shot. The replay was inconclusive so you have to revert back to the original call which was a made basket.

In the end Zona not losing helps our RPI but it was a bad call.
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So that's two gifts to help Zona's seeding this year, one from us and one from the refs.
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Absolute travesty...the only people who think that should've been waved off were the refs and the supervisor of officials for the Pac-12...As an aside, now that's twice this year that my teams have blown huge leads and lost vs. 'Zona in Tucson...starting to really hate that place!
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The NCAA Coordinator of Officials also thinks the referees got it right. But I agree, the only three opinions that count are the three referees that called the game, and they didn't call a good one. Maybe not calling the last shot good was a make-up for calling a foul on Mark Lyons against Dinwiddie with about 43 seconds left when Dinwiddie slipped and Lyons was about 2 feet away. The call negated a steal and a would-be break-away dunk by Nick Johnson, and Dinwiddie made one of two free throws.

Calls at the end of the game are always magnified, but for most games, the bad calls even out. The foul on Dinwiddie/negated Johnson dunk was a 3-point swing in favor of Colorado, which was evened out by the referees calling the last shot no good, even if I think he got the ball off with .1 second on the clock.
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Of course there were other bad calls but the problem with that particular call is they had the ability to review it, and every unbiased source that looks at that side shot can see it was good. So you really have to question what the refs were thinking.
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Of course there were other bad calls but the problem with that particular call is they had the ability to review it, and every unbiased source that looks at that side shot can see it was good. So you really have to question what the refs were thinking.
Yes: I wonder if the refs (and the Supervisor of Officials for that matter) are lacking a little lesson in logic.

Question: If one view/angle is conclusive and another angle is (or even several angles are) inconclusive, what do you have?

Answer: You have a conclusive replay/call based on the one conclusive angle.


Is that simple lesson really lost on these officials?
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Absolute travesty...the only people who think that should've been waved off were the refs and the supervisor of officials for the Pac-12...As an aside, now that's twice this year that my teams have blown huge leads and lost vs. 'Zona in Tucson...starting to really hate that place!
Hah, me too. I actually graduated from CU in 07 and UF in 09. Even worse for me--my sister went to Zona.

Watching both my schools dominate Zona and lose weeks a part was highly upsetting.
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arizona's kinda charmed this year. they've come back on two quality ball clubs. that's pretty good statement right there. could likely be a very good year for them.
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