01-03-2013, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wygator
Accelerated the SS shortfall in ability to pay benefits.
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yup
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01-03-2013, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wargunfan
I'd love to see a consumption tax replace the income tax. At least that way you wouldn't pay taxes until you spent money and no tax returns. If we had a 15% consumption tax you could calculate the gross cost of purchases and decide whether or not to spend the money. I would exempt food and medical.
Oh, and as a bonus, all the folks who are currently paying zero income tax would start to pay their share.
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I wish
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01-03-2013, 09:42 PM
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Can you envision the Zombie Obama voter going into their HR dept this week wondering why their paycheck has shrunk? Poor HR dept.
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01-03-2013, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by viningsgator
Can you envision the Zombie Obama voter going into their HR dept this week wondering why their paycheck has shrunk? Poor HR dept.
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Yeah, but that's nothing another cutesie "hope and change" propaganda slogan won't fix. The American people have a history of eating that kind of crap up ("the war to end all wars!", "making the world safe for democracy (lol)!", "remember the (false-flagged) Maine!").
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01-03-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelang
Any paycheck you get tomorrow should - in any normal company - be your last paycheck of 2012. So whatever tax implications occur should be in your next check.
Depends if your company is cash or accrual basis.
Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2GyIhWvec
Incorrect on both counts - the IRS doesn't care if the wages earned were from August 2012, if the check date is 1/4/13 it is 2013 earned income and taxed accordingly.
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01-03-2013, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by viningsgator
Can you envision the Zombie Obama voter going into their HR dept this week wondering why their paycheck has shrunk? Poor HR dept.
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I'm not even kidding when I say I see an Obama poster and several Obama screensavers in the cubicles of our payroll/etc department on the fourth floor when I go up there to take new employees for their bank routing info. Nice people, but clearly only voting democrat because that's who scares them to vote that way. All Obama has to do is mention the new deduction being given back in their tax refund and I guarantee because most want to believe him they'll blindly latch on to that one comment without caring to check once their refund come in.
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01-03-2013, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by viningsgator
Can you envision the Zombie Obama voter going into their HR dept this week wondering why their paycheck has shrunk? Poor HR dept.
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Considering that the GOP wanted to sunset the Social Security holiday that was part of the stimulus LAST YEAR, the Obama voter got a year more of 2% less in Social Security withholdings than the GOP wanted.
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01-03-2013, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by viningsgator
Can you envision the Zombie Obama voter going into their HR dept this week wondering why their paycheck has shrunk? Poor HR dept.
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No offense, but it seems like the zombie Romney voters on TH are the most confused by this event.
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01-03-2013, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by g8rjd
Considering that the GOP wanted to sunset the Social Security holiday that was part of the stimulus LAST YEAR, the Obama voter got a year more of 2% less in Social Security withholdings than the GOP wanted.
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Hey man, quit bothering us with facts. We're all congratulating ourselves on how much smarter we are than those dummies who only care about their tax cuts.
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01-03-2013, 11:42 PM
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Cool man. I see your time in exile hasnt changed you at all. Rock on.
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Well, his post is spot on.
You can't refute a word of it.
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01-04-2013, 03:22 PM
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Mine was $300 less. Twice monthly sucks.
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01-04-2013, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyGator
Mine was $300 less. Twice monthly sucks.
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Careful.
The libs will tell you that you can afford it because you make plenty...
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01-05-2013, 08:57 PM
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Paid once per month---SS will take $180 a month from what i calculated, CA new income tax will take $500 more per month, loss of deductions and new rates $700 a month.
As stated on another thread--- i have adjusted---less cable/internet service, less hours to housekeeper, less landscaping, 1 lost vacation, 1 extra week of work.....at end of day I will save the same and put same away for kid education----but i have decided to SPEND less---i think the persons who will feel it the most are my household employees and the place i would have vacationed at.
But easier for me to spend less then save less----my priority is disciplined investments and child's future. In the end if i take home x amount less, i spend x amount less. I wont borrow to fund that activity and I wont save less.
I also reduced my charitable plans.
This is what and will happen when taxes go up---and it should. And taxes should go up with DECREASED govt spending----dems only got half of it right.
Obama always talks about reducing GROWTH of govt, but never about CUTTING it.
In fact he just raised govt pay---to a people ALREADY making more then private sector for same job according to CBO.
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01-05-2013, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorFanCF
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Originally Posted by bluelang
Any paycheck you get tomorrow should - in any normal company - be your last paycheck of 2012. So whatever tax implications occur should be in your next check.
Depends if your company is cash or accrual basis.
Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2GyIhWvec
Incorrect on both counts - the IRS doesn't care if the wages earned were from August 2012, if the check date is 1/4/13 it is 2013 earned income and taxed accordingly.
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good. I was worried that my paycheck would be smaller in 2 weeks
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01-06-2013, 07:08 AM
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Republicans would not support a continuation of the 2% payroll tax roll back, so perhaps some of you need to stop blaming the other side for what we do.
There shoud be no blame at all as the good news is, that 2% goes into SS and medicare, so the fund will now increase its revenue.
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01-06-2013, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gatordowneast
I've always felt like we should have to cut checks to the IRS on each payday. It would make the typical taxpayer aware of how much they are actually paying and perhaps cause them to keep the DC thiefs accountable. Today, most taxpayers focus on their "take home". Those of us that are self employed are also cutting quarterly checks, which in good years can be substantial. Gets my attention.
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Could be a matter if trust between the gov't and the people. Too bad we put too much trust in the gov't and the gov't not enough trust in us.
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01-06-2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by busigator96
We are just going back to clintonian levels of taxes.
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I hope we're not going back to Clintonian levels of murder and rape.
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01-06-2013, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mastoidbone
Paid once per month---SS will take $180 a month from what i calculated, CA new income tax will take $500 more per month, loss of deductions and new rates $700 a month.
As stated on another thread--- i have adjusted---less cable/internet service, less hours to housekeeper, less landscaping, 1 lost vacation, 1 extra week of work.....at end of day I will save the same and put same away for kid education----but i have decided to SPEND less---i think the persons who will feel it the most are my household employees and the place i would have vacationed at.
But easier for me to spend less then save less----my priority is disciplined investments and child's future. In the end if i take home x amount less, i spend x amount less. I wont borrow to fund that activity and I wont save less.
I also reduced my charitable plans.
This is what and will happen when taxes go up---and it should. And taxes should go up with DECREASED govt spending----dems only got half of it right.
Obama always talks about reducing GROWTH of govt, but never about CUTTING it.
In fact he just raised govt pay---to a people ALREADY making more then private sector for same job according to CBO.
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He didnt raise government pay. Federal pay has been frozen for the past 2 years. He put into the budget last year a .5% pay raise which was to go into effect on Jan 1st but part of the last minute deals last october (or somewhere around there) the raise was pushed back to March. The raise is now been proposed to be pushed back till Oct. And the CBO doesnt necessarily compare apples to apples but thats a different story.
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01-06-2013, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cocodrilo
I hope we're not going back to Clintonian levels of murder and rape.
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You know that crime rates, including violent crime rates dropped during the Clinton administration, right?
While I think there are factors other than who was President that caused that to happen, I don't think your attempt at a sound-byte is particularly wise.
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01-06-2013, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by g8rjd
You know that crime rates, including violent crime rates dropped during the Clinton administration, right?
While I think there are factors other than who was President that caused that to happen, I don't think your attempt at a sound-byte is particularly wise.
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Something just flew over your head, bud.
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