01-03-2013, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PIMking
He hit a qb and we all know that is a no no
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This is true. However, in college, when you have a running threat qb, he needs to be treated like a rb. I can understand it more in the NFL. Not so much in college.
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01-03-2013, 01:27 PM
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I thought Elam's hit was fine. The receiver looked like he was trying to establish control. What was Elam supposed to do roll around until he caught the ball?
Bostic's hit was rightfully flagged. 10/10 times that gets flagged today. Lots of lesser hits on the qb catch flags. Defenders know the rules. Agreeing or disagreeing with the pussification of football is one thing, but the refs absolutely made the correct call.
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01-03-2013, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by floridavol29
I thought Elam's hit was fine. The receiver looked like he was trying to establish control. What was Elam supposed to do roll around until he caught the ball?
Bostic's hit was rightfully flagged. 10/10 times that gets flagged today. Lots of lesser hits on the qb catch flags. Defenders know the rules. Agreeing or disagreeing with the pussification of football is one thing, but the refs absolutely made the correct call.
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Somehow I feel like if Eric Berry had of hit Tebow like that, you prolly wouldn't be taking the same stance.
Did you even watch the vid? If so, at what point during full speed do you think Bostic had time to pull up?
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01-03-2013, 02:03 PM
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floridavol29, you are completely wrong on the Bostic hit. In fact, you might want to get your eyes checked, as the video has been posted twice on this thread showing two different angles. Neither angle shows any contact between Bostic's helmet and Bridgewater's nor do they show any sort of "forearm shiver" to the chin. You can be as emphatic as you want to be, but you're still wrong.
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01-03-2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by floridavol29
It was and should have been called. Take off the glasses. In today's game that is a penalty. After the qb releases the ball the defender must pull up. Bostic ran right through him with some forearm shiv to boot. Dumb play.
I will agree that it was a beautiful hit, but in today's game completely illegal.
My question is why Bridgewater was in on the next play?
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Please... watch the video a few times. How in the hell is Bostic supposed to pull up? I'm sick of this protecting the quarterback sh!t. Bridgewater should have thrown it earlier if he didn't want to get hit. Don't even get me started on the quarterbacks dancing down the sidelines and then stepping out at the last second and then getting "hit late" out of bounds. It makes me want to puke!
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01-03-2013, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Annihilgator
floridavol29, you are completely wrong on the Bostic hit. In fact, you might want to get your eyes checked, as the video has been posted twice on this thread showing two different angles. Neither angle shows any contact between Bostic's helmet and Bridgewater's nor do they show any sort of "forearm shiver" to the chin. You can be as emphatic as you want to be, but you're still wrong.
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THIS. And has anyone considered the fact that perhaps Bostic DID see Bridgewater release the ball and instinctively put his arms up to reduce the severity of the hit?
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01-03-2013, 04:24 PM
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The thing that confuses me is that Clowney's hit is deemed to be a great play and Bostic's is seen as dirty. They are almost identical in the location of the hit and both helmets flew off.
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01-03-2013, 04:28 PM
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Shot to the chest. Wasn't late. Good hit. I think the Dan Quin was interviewed during the game saying Bostic had a good hit. I like it.
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01-03-2013, 04:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floridavol29
I thought Elam's hit was fine. The receiver looked like he was trying to establish control. What was Elam supposed to do roll around until he caught the ball?
Bostic's hit was rightfully flagged. 10/10 times that gets flagged today. Lots of lesser hits on the qb catch flags. Defenders know the rules. Agreeing or disagreeing with the pussification of football is one thing, but the refs absolutely made the correct call.
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Im not even sure why Im asking because you're talking like you havent even watched the play but here goes: What part of what rule was violated? Doesnt look like helmet to helmet. Doesnt look like a late hit. No facemask, no tripping, no nothing. Was the hit too hard? Was it because the helmet came off? Was it because Bridgewater fell down? Was it because the forearm made contact with the midsection? You do realize the arm is attached to the shoulder which is the alternative contact initiator to the helmet.
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01-03-2013, 05:04 PM
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Instead of attempting to slow down Bostic leaned into the hit. I'm not saying he could have stopped, but he didn't have to put a slobber knocker on the guy. Like it or not that hit gets flagged in today's game.
BTW - I'm not trying to stir the pot. I was rooting for you guys to dust Louisville. 3rd down defense killed you, though.
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01-03-2013, 05:20 PM
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Not a penalty. Sorry vol. you are wrong but then again you are a vol and that explains a lot. The play happened so fast and the hit so close to the helmet that the ref instinctively made the call. It looked like a bad hit and he called it. It seems more refs are erring on the side of throwing the flag than not if it's questionable. There is no replay for refs when making those calls. It was a judgement call but it was wrong.
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01-03-2013, 05:20 PM
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It was NOT a late hit. Slowing down doesn't change anything. He chose to hold the ball till the last second. I think if the helmet doesn't come off, he doesn't get flagged.
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01-03-2013, 05:30 PM
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I'm quite sure Bostic pulled the Louisville running back's helmet off and should have had a face mask call a few plays later that they missed so he did get a freebie there...the officiating was bad but we did play terrible.
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01-03-2013, 05:43 PM
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How about when Shariff gets flagged for the facemask by a ref with a completely unobstructed view who happened to miss the fist fulls of Shariff's jersey. It really makes me wonder if the fix is in. Very, very obvious holding missed by a ref who is clearly staring right at it, but only calls the facemask
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01-03-2013, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floridavol29
It was and should have been called. Take off the glasses. In today's game that is a penalty. After the qb releases the ball the defender must pull up. Bostic ran right through him with some forearm shiv to boot. Dumb play.
I will agree that it was a beautiful hit, but in today's game completely illegal.
My question is why Bridgewater was in on the next play?
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My contacts are working just fine...
Should have been called??? Are you serious? Bostic hit him a split second after he released. Bostic didn't even take a full step to make contact. He led with his shoulder and made all of his contact below the head. Only contact with the QB's helmet came after initial contact was made. The only reason it was called was because the referee had a bad angle and saw the helmet come off. It was a BS call. There was nothing illegal about the hit unless you want to flag the QB for not having his helmet strapped on tight enough.
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01-03-2013, 07:34 PM
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Looks like a good hit to me. This is football not the lingerie bowl.
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01-03-2013, 07:39 PM
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By the way, if this wasn't a personal foul, UL would have had 3rd and 10 with Bridgewater on the sideline since his helmet came off. More than likely they wouldn't have converted and the game might have been different. Horrible call by biased B10 crew.
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01-03-2013, 08:19 PM
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The Gamecock QB got pasted or speered in the ribs on the last play of the game vs Michigan right after he let go of the ball too...
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01-03-2013, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
The pussification of the game continues. Write that down 
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It is but the hit was illegal. You can't hit a qb like that after the ball is in the air. It didn't help the hit caused the helmet to fly off. Bostic was better off going for his knees and maybe with some luck, tear a knee up. That way, the roughing crap will go away.
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01-03-2013, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g8tr96
Somehow I feel like if Eric Berry had of hit Tebow like that, you prolly wouldn't be taking the same stance.
Did you even watch the vid? If so, at what point during full speed do you think Bostic had time to pull up?
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He had time since he knew the hit was going to be vicious. The best thing he could have down is take out his knees and either injure him or cause him not to follow through.
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