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01-03-2013, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorLaw
The only mistake I saw that could clearly be attributed to the coaches was the onside kick. I thought that was a foolish thing to do. We weren't so far behind and it wasn't so late in the game that we absolutely had to get the ball for the offense. So I thought that was an unnecessary risk to take. .
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I dont know...how about calling a QB sneak from the 3 yard line then having to burn a precious timeout to stop the clock when it doesnt work (of course it doesnt)? How about constantly winding the play clock all the way down when you are 2 scores down? How about no sense of urgency? Its like a 2-minute offense isnt even installed. How about another 100 yards in penalties?
If one or two guys have an off night, sure that happens. But when you have a total team melt-down, dont you have to look at the coaching? If they just came out and said they spent this entire month recruiting, Id be fine with it. At least I could understand that.
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01-03-2013, 09:42 AM
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What was disappointing is that we went away from what got us there awfully early. I think if we kept up our grinding style and didn't get flustered we would eventually wear them down...but we didn't.
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01-03-2013, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Wait you honestly think we're the 3rd best team in America?
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We will most likely finish 10-15th and 5th in the SEC.
Being 3rd at some point means what exactly? USF was #2 at one point in one season.
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01-03-2013, 09:54 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by number1
I don't have to think about it, that is one thing even his haters could not take away from him. We were always prepared to play in the bowl games.
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Really?
Were we prepared in the SECCG in 2009?
We're we prepared for Michigan in 2007?
This was Muschamps 2 nd bowl game.
He will have a lot of chances from here on out
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01-03-2013, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by ironhead1
Really?
Were we prepared in the SECCG in 2009?
We're we prepared for Michigan in 2007?
This was Muschamps 2 nd bowl game.
He will have a lot of chances from here on out
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Urban had an amazing record when given more than a week to prepare. I don't think the 09 SECCG qualifies in that regard. It certainly wasn't a bowl game, as the original poster was commenting on. But yes, I though we were prepared for that Michigan bowl game, they just out scored us in a shoot out. Like much of that year, our offense played very well and our young D gave up too many points.
This Sugar Bowl loss was a complete team and coaching loss. No one looked like they were ready.
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01-03-2013, 11:20 AM
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Heisman Winner
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Location: East Coast of FL
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Tipped ball for pick 6, tipped ball for int.
D never could stop the 3rd down conversion and got minimal pressure on UL QB.
Offense was avg, had a few good drives but did not get the ball back because UL punted ONCE!
Glad Debose final made a play in 2012, actually it's 2013 so I guess he never made one in 2012!
Team walked into NO and listened to all the talking heads as young men do and forgot to prepare, as per the year UF played down to the level of the competion classic for young teams.
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01-03-2013, 11:41 AM
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This is a team that is NOT FUN to watch.They make mistake after mistake and a coaching staff that continues to overlook low class,no integrity players with a total absence of sportsmanship.They remind me way too much of the semiholes under mickey andrews.If you can't win and lose with INTEGRITY--you have nothing to be proud of!!!!
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01-03-2013, 11:51 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by Swampmaster
meyer's 2010 uf team---blowout losses to lsu, alabama, south carolina and f$u.
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Didn't we lose to an unranked Michigan team in a bowl game also?
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01-03-2013, 11:56 AM
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I thought the 4th down call for the 2pt conversion play was well designed and timed.
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01-03-2013, 11:57 AM
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Are we the worst onside kickers in NCAA history ? I wonder if we even practice them.
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01-03-2013, 11:59 AM
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner
Are we the worst onside kickers in NCAA history ? I wonder if we even practice them.
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Honestly, Dream, you're getting a little carried away here.
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01-03-2013, 12:08 PM
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Our consistently undisciplined play - as evidenced by all the 15 yard personal foul penalties alone - cost us something in every game, and in this one (and UGA) it cost us a chance at winning. However, this is not something Will is ignoring. He's clearly perplexed by how to get consistently "cleaner" play out of our guys. Given his track record, I bet he figures it out in the off season and next season we'll be much better in that arena.
In my opinion, our throwing the ball early and often was directly related to Lousiville loading the box and committing to stopping the run. Our OL was not strong enough to make our run game as effective as it needed to be to overcome such a large defecit. When we were forced to pass, Driskel didn't have much time (again no surprise). He locked onto receivers, under/over threw them, totally missed opportunities for wide open guys, or held the ball too long (again, not surprising).
Looks like the QB battle in the Spring will be interesting, as it seems Driskel has not really developed a ton over the season. An improved line, the incoming batch of receivers coupled with a second consecutive year in the same system for those on campus will benefit whomever is QB in 2013.
It's a disappointing finish to an otherwise stellar year. However, I like the direction the PROGRAM is headed. This "bad taste in their mouths" may be just the motivation the team needs to do all the right things in the off season. I remain optimistic about the future! GO GATORS!
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01-03-2013, 01:03 PM
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Our offense was pathetically predictable - we abandoned what got us to this point, ground and pound. And the defense hardly blitzed at all.
All in all we were completely predictable and totally out coached.
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01-03-2013, 01:15 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by gatorfansrule
I do think they freaked out and went with the pass too early in the game. I think they saw how our defense was not getting them off the field so we weren't going to get too many possessions. We should have come out running the ball the first play of the game so we could settle Jeff into the game first before he had to throw.
I don't think the onside kick coming out of half was a bad call, they probably saw something either on film or in the first half and thought they could get it. Obviously it didn't work out and the penalties by the players on that play really killed us, which the coaches can't control.
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I agree. Not a bad call at that time in the game...surely to be unexpected by the receiving team. Turned into a bad call by the poor player reactions.
Of course, poor player reactions do reflect on coaching.
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01-03-2013, 01:28 PM
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When you have a defense like ours, you need to give them a chance. Our D has had some bad first halves this year but always came out and kicked it in for the 2nd halves. The onside kick was a sign of desperation and it set the tone for the 3rd quarter. We have a young coach. It will get better. However, we were out coached last night. We have a great class coming in here and the future is bright.
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01-03-2013, 01:32 PM
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Gator Country Gold
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Originally Posted by gatordee
When you have a defense like ours, you need to give them a chance. Our D has had some bad first halves this year but always came out and kicked it in for the 2nd halves. The onside kick was a sign of desperation and it set the tone for the 3rd quarter. We have a young coach. It will get better. However, we were out coached last night. We have a great class coming in here and the future is bright.
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Agreed, that onside kick was the stupidest call all year long.
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01-03-2013, 01:58 PM
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Gator Country Gold
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Muschamp panicked when his game plan was not working
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01-03-2013, 02:19 PM
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The Louisville players were ready to run through a wall for Coach Strong and rightly so. Their coaches also had a fantastic game plan. This was the Super Bowl for them.
That being said, our team has looked bad this year against the "non-marquis" teams. That's on the coaches. Muschamp has GOT to do a better job in making sure our team is up for everybody. There was no excuse for our poor showings against Bowling Green, Jax State and we were lucky to escape with a win against La-lafeyette. Our team just seems to take them too lightly...coaches need to fix that.
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01-03-2013, 02:27 PM
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Entire staff except Durkin (special teams) was out coached in every respect. The onside kick IMO the dumbest call by a Gator coach since 4th and Dumb (/dickey). 2 score game, we have some mo and a great defense (except last night), kick deep, stop them and then run it down their throats, grind them up and hoefully win by 3 at the end. Way too risky and early to bet the game on that call.'
Also, no matter how bad the officials are, Champs needs to calm down, period.
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01-03-2013, 03:08 PM
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Heisman Winner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: East Coast of FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlayer
Muschamp is NO coaching genius....that's for sure.
Could you imagine this ever happening to Urban?
Think about it.
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Please see 2009 SECCG, 2005 @ Bama, 2010 vs USCe...thats just of the top of my head
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