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Old 12-31-2012, 09:43 AM   #41
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Obama thinks he's the fourth-best president in history, after Lincoln, FDR, and LBJ. That should tell you all you need to know about:

a) his over-sized ego and arrogance.

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b) his demented philosophy on the function of gov't. If he were to be honest about the role of gov't, he would say that "The purpose of gov't is to provide for the people, feed the people, house the people, and clothe the people. The purpose of people is to pay the taxes to feed gov't, if they make too much money." I think that summarizes his "spread the wealth around" philosophy.

I'm not sure which is harder to believe, that we elected a halfwit like GWB to office twice, or that we elected a dimwit like Obama to office twice.
I go back further than these. I would add, even though it seems to be taboo, Reagan and Clinton. Reagan was a great cheerleader but not much on the details. I understand that was what we needed at the time but too much power put in the hands of his subordinates and caused the rise of the Moral Majority. Clinton was - and is - a very smart used car salesman. And we knew that going in via Gennifer Flowers and Whitewater. Then we decide after a LOT of misdeeds to impeach him and get it through the House and what does he do? He throws a press conference not to ask for forgiveness but to repudiate the House. And we have not righted the ship since.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:46 PM   #42
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I was just going to say that poor people in America are far more apt to die of gluttony than starvation.
Most obese poor the world has ever seen......
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:49 PM   #43
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What happens when they take away the charitable contribution? Where's all this food coming from?
Sure I donate $100 to pay $20 less in taxes, that's why its done...
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What happens when they take away the charitable contribution? Where's all this food coming from?
I assume you're talking about the tax deduction associated with charitable donations.

A lot of people that don't make a huge amount of money and contribute a few thousand a year to charitable causes do not get to use the charity tax deduction, because the standard deduction is higher. Most years, I am one of those people. So go ahead and take away the charity tax deduction. I won't miss it.
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What happens when they take away the charitable contribution? Where's all this food coming from?
You would be surprised as I am. The majority of people in this country file 1040 EZ and take the personal deduction rather than itemizing on 1040. I agree that limiting or eliminating the charitable deduction would hurt some, however most people give out of a feeling of responsibility or love for others and not cutting their tax bill.

That is also why conservatives give a far greater % of their funds than libbies, whose belief is that it is a "state" or "government" responsibility rather than a personal responsibility.
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