please- the Israeli's offered Arafat everything he said he wanted and then he said no
the Palestinians only goal is the total eradication of Israel
More Zionist propaganda. The Palestinians turned that deal down because the Israelis a few months later continued building illegal settlements. They are despicable.
Israel's goal is to ethnically cleanse the entire Palestinian territory IE: genocide. The map tells it all.
this map does not tell it all-it does not reflect what happened during the 6 day war or any other attacks by arabs(includes Palestinians in my view)-when you attack and you lose the war/battle- you usually lose territory
the middle east is in a constant state of war and has been forever-the strongest has survived
That's what the Neocon propaganda wants you to believe. The reality of it is Palestine has now been given UN recognition and is one step away from statehood. The Israelis refuse to acknowledge that and are even building more illegal settlements to show it. They are the epitome of evil.
If Israel wanted peace, they would work to get nukes out of the region. They want to have them, not declare them, and then force other countries not to be able to get them.
If Israel wanted peace, they would stop building illegal settlements on Palestinian land.
If Israel wanted peace, they wouldn't use phosphorous bombs on a civilian population.
I can go on and on. They don't want peace. The Israelis thrive on instability and turmoil in the Middle East. They absolutely love it because it allows them to further their Zionist agenda.
BTW - You're correct that we're fighting the same war and it's because our government kisses their a** and believes they're always right. Period. AIPAC is the root of the problem.
of course you ignore all that the palestinians have been doing to Israel...
btw..exactly when did Palestine become a country....?
of course you ignore all that the palestinians have been doing to Israel...
btw..exactly when did Palestine become a country....?
They're not a country...yet. I said they're close. The UN has granted them "non-member observer state" status and that gives them far more rights, like bringing war crimes to the UN's attention, than it did before.
What did Israel do immediately following this vote? Started building more illegal settlements and said they won't be recognizing Palestine's new UN status.
"On November 30, Israel approved a plan to build 3,000 more units in East al-Quds (Jerusalem) and the occupied West Bank. On December 3, Israel announced plans to construct 1,600 new illegal settlements in East al-Quds (Jerusalem)."
"The Israeli settlements are considered illegal by the UN and much of the international community. However, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has remained defiant, saying settlement construction is part of Tel Aviv’s policy and will not stop."
LOL at Israel and their slave state (Us, unfortunately) saying this new vote will somehow "hinder" the peace process. How? How can actually recognizing Palestine HINDER peace? That's what we want. A two-state solution. The Israelis thrive on instability. They want war to continue in the Middle East and if they have to continue persecuting the Palestinians to reach that goal, have the Mossad carry out a false-flag operation, etc. they'll do it.
As far as I'm concerned, they're like the pre-Revolution Americans fighting for their land against the British (Israelis) who continue to oppress them and force them to live under their rule.
The Israelis are committing genocide right now. That map really shows it all. Before long, there won't be any Palestinians to make noise to the UN and that's how the epitome of evil aka the Israelis want it.
As far as I'm concerned, they're like the pre-Revolution Americans fighting for their land against the British (Israelis) who continue to oppress them and force them to live under their rule.
The Israelis are committing genocide right now. That map really shows it all. Before long, there won't be any Palestinians to make noise to the UN and that's how the epitome of evil aka the Israelis want it.
and of course there are no palestinian settlements on israeli land...
btw...the pre-revolution americans were fighting to take BRITISH colonies from great britian....so the palestinians are trying to take Israeli land...
the maps look like the ISRAELIS FOUGHT AND WON THE BATTLES FOR THE LAND
and if you want to talk about the epitome of evil, how about those pre-revolution, post revolution, pre civil war, etc..americans who slaughtered millions of indians because they had the audicity to be on our land before we got here....
The Arabs don't recognize Israel as a legitimate state and want to kill all the Jews. Those Arabs have no rights, to land or even to live.
I would support Israel taking over the whole region. The truth is that the Muslims in Israel have more rights than they have in Muslim countries, especially the Muslim women.
As far as I'm concerned, they're like the pre-Revolution Americans fighting for their land against the British (Israelis) who continue to oppress them and force them to live under their rule.
The Israelis are committing genocide right now. That map really shows it all. Before long, there won't be any Palestinians to make noise to the UN and that's how the epitome of evil aka the Israelis want it.
As far as I'm concerned, they're like the pre-Revolution Americans fighting for their land against the British (Israelis) who continue to oppress them and force them to live under their rule.
The Israelis are committing genocide right now. That map really shows it all. Before long, there won't be any Palestinians to make noise to the UN and that's how the epitome of evil aka the Israelis want it.
Standard propaganda technique: eliminate context. Which in this case is the protracted unavailability of a negotiating partner willing or able to deliver peace -- or even security. So settlements are a way of maintaining punitive pressure upon this state of affairs. Is every Israeli operating in good faith? No, but it's irrelevant. If the Palestinians dither long enough they are going to run out of territory.
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As far as I'm concerned, they're like the pre-Revolution Americans fighting for their land against the British (Israelis) who continue to oppress them and force them to live under their rule.
Actually, they're more like the Native Americans.
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one thing missing here is the motivation for neoconservatism
it isn't about spreading democracy
its putting friendly regimes into place to further US/West corporate interests...many of whom they have ties with
You've completely mischaracterized the neoconservative animus. They are, in large measure, former leftist radicals with a libertarian bent. It would be more forthright if you simply labeled them as apostates from your camp that now serve Satan.
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Neocon has and always will be the code word for Zionist aka the Israel Firsters. Romney was one as well. We haven't had a true Republican in office since Reagan. They'll continue to run this country into the ground while making us pay for their wars in the Middle East which do nothing for us but everything for Israel. Until they're removed and the people wake up to this nonsense, we'll continue to get destroyed from within. Krauthammer and Kristol are two of the worst Zionists. They'd like nothing more than to see us invade Iran and get thousands more of our troops killed in a no-win war while also killing thousands of Iranian civilians.
I used to enjoy watching Fox News until they became the Zionist/Neocon mouthpiece. Unfortunately, I don't think the American people are intelligent enough as a whole to wake up to this undermining and it'll be too late if they do.
Got to increase that debt limit so we can send more weapons to the Middle East. Oh, and the American taxpayer will be on the hook for the bill.
What a load of crap. Israel is an extremely small part of our foreign policy--almost inconsequential. We have yet to send large numbers of troops into the ME because of or on behalf of Israel. Oil (including the free market's access to it, as well as what is done with the profits from selling it) is a hundred times the driver of policy that Israel is. If we invade Iran, it will be because of the 60,000 nuclear centrifuges that we've been helping them to buy. (And yes, Reagan supported Israel as well.) Maybe you need to wake up.
Who? China? China is a paper tiger. It will collapse from within. All that repression of its citizenry will be its downfall. The people will rise up and demand respect, food, freedom and demand less military spending.
After a few Chinese people rise up and get shot down, the rest will get the message. The demands of the people will not be the downfall of China. Poor economic policy and central planning (which is virtually impossible when a country is growing 8-12% a year) will be what drags them down. They have built superhighways to ghost cities that have no population. All major cities have dozens of gigantic buildings going up, and the economy is not strong enough to support them.
Their other problem is infrastructure and regulation. Their infrastructure will not stand the test of time, because they built so fast that they didn't have time to do it right (and much of the spending went towards corruption). Concrete for HSR was built with low-grade fly ash, which will fall apart much faster than high-grade flay ash would. Their inability to regulate their industries successfully means that the Chinese consumers have little faith in their producers, so they buy western goods if they can afford them. Chinese mothers are deathly afraid to feed Chinese formula to their babies, so they buy Nestle or other western brands. Inability to regulate also impacts heavy industries, including power generation, and will lead to excessive pollution that will cause major health problems as well as destroy the environment for agriculture. The country's dust pollution levels has already caused a significant reduction in the amounts of rain that China receives. That is very bad news, considering that the ice cover on the Himalayan mountain range (which feeds all of China's rivers) is expected to be completely melted by 2037. No rivers = no fresh water = no economy.
Your biggest fear should be that we will have to bail out China. As long as a new Obama is in office in the 2030's, we will be bailing out China. They are too big to fail, you know.
You've completely mischaracterized the neoconservative animus. They are, in large measure, former leftist radicals with a libertarian bent. It would be more forthright if you simply labeled them as apostates from your camp that now serve Satan.
There is nothing libertarian about neocons. libertarianism (capitalization omitted to distinguish the philosophy from the political party) is in essence opposition to the initiation of force to achieve political goals. Foreign policy counts. They aren't freedom lovers in principle or in reality if they want to crap on the rest of the world and don't care what happens here. We are all forced to pay with taxation and inflation for their excellent adventures abroad.
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There is nothing libertarian about neocons. libertarianism (capitalization omitted to distinguish the philosophy from the political party) is in essence opposition to the initiation of force to achieve political goals. Foreign policy counts. They aren't freedom lovers in principle or in reality if they want to crap on the rest of the world and don't care what happens here. We are all forced to pay with taxation and inflation for their excellent adventures abroad.
In the case of a despot isn't it safe to say that force has already been initiated?
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You've completely mischaracterized the neoconservative animus. They are, in large measure, former leftist radicals with a libertarian bent. It would be more forthright if you simply labeled them as apostates from your camp that now serve Satan.
examples of "leftist radicals" within today's neoconservatives?
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