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12-24-2012, 07:12 AM
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Florida dominating instate recruiting
I mentioned in another thread that Florida needed to own its own state to become the dominant program in the SEC again, and I decided to take a look at the numbers. Florida is blowing away Miami and FSU, with TWELVE of the state's top 50 players (according to Rivals) on their way to Gainesville.
Also, the latest thing to obsess about appears to be how Florida is somehow getting owned by Clemson in recruiting. How many players from Rivals top 50 (Florida) prospects are on their way to Clemson? One. We can't be happy with completely dominating the state; we have to become hysterical over a receiver from Georgia who doesn't want to join the fun.
Obviously things will change between now and signing day. But, as it stands right now, Miami and FSU only have five prospects committed COMBINED from that list. Here's who UF has locked up from the list of the top instate players:
#1 Vernon Hargraves
#9 Kelvin Taylor
#10 Marcell Harris
#14 Dan McMillian
#15 Ahmad Fulwood
#17 Caleb Brantley
#18 Alvin Bailey
#21 Keanu Neal
#22 Jordan Sherit
#23 Nick Washington
#31 James Hearns
#42 Joey Ivie
So, Florida really has ten of the top 23 instate players committed. Anybody who follows recruiting knows how important it is for Florida to dominate its own state. It's nice to pluck players from states like North Carolina, Maryland, New York, etc...but Muschamp knows that recruiting Florida better than anyone else will win championships. That's what he's doing.
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12-24-2012, 07:21 AM
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Very nice numbers. Hadn't noticed that.
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12-24-2012, 07:21 AM
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Thanks for the perspective, good post,
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12-24-2012, 07:39 AM
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The problem isn't FSU or Miami anymore..It's Bama,Jawja,USCw and soon to be Ohio St with Urban under the helm coming in and taking the ELITE Florida prospects away from us.
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12-24-2012, 07:40 AM
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Had to rep this thread. Awesome breakdown!
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12-24-2012, 09:18 AM
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We also have a shot at #7 (Alexander) and #25 (Collins.)
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12-24-2012, 09:52 AM
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Wow... This is how you contribute to a message board! Thanks for that bro!!! Yes the big boys are becoming a nuisance. Bottom line is we still need to show receivers and qb's that we can use your talents, and display your talent to the NFL.
I think with another dominating year on defense, we won't miss on very many top instate defensive guys. Once again, we need the 1st round to be littered with gators, that's what matters most to recruits!
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12-24-2012, 11:28 AM
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Gatormasta check the rosters on many really good college teams and you'll find out that for years out of state teams have recruited top players from Florida. Many of these guys are AA types. We can't take them all and a bunch of them go elsewhere because of the academic requirements at Florida. So far we have the number one rated class so I'm more the content and happy WM has the reins.
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12-24-2012, 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorMasta
The problem isn't FSU or Miami anymore..It's Bama,Jawja,USCw and soon to be Ohio St with Urban under the helm coming in and taking the ELITE Florida prospects away from us.
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It's a two way street however. Urban will get more people from Florida than we will from Ohio. So what does that say about his confidence in Ohio HS football. He is basically saying he can't win in the Big 10 without a strong contingent of players from Florida. That is a slap in the face to the locals who dreamed to play for TOSU but were overlooked by someone from Liberty City.
We will be able to get some blue chip players who want Meyers to realize that there is some pretty good talent in the state of Ohio also that he shouldn't have bypassed.
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12-24-2012, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wci347
It's a two way street however. Urban will get more people from Florida than we will from Ohio. So what does that say about his confidence in Ohio HS football. He is basically saying he can't win in the Big 10 without a strong contingent of players from Florida. That is a slap in the face to the locals who dreamed to play for TOSU but were overlooked by someone from Liberty City.
We will be able to get some blue chip players who want Meyers to realize that there is some pretty good talent in the state of Ohio also that he shouldn't have bypassed.
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That's silly. Ohio State always has and always will continue to have the vast majority of their team from Ohio and fill in a few spots here and there with blue chippers. Its nothing new that a dozen or so kids from Ohio lose a spot to a stud from Florida or Texas, etc...
Just because urbana there doesn't mean 50% of their roster will now be Fla kids
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12-24-2012, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorMasta
The problem isn't FSU or Miami anymore..It's Bama,Jawja,USCw and soon to be Ohio St with Urban under the helm coming in and taking the ELITE Florida prospects away from us.
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I wouldn't count on urban being that much of a competitor and certainly not USCw now that Kiffen has been exposed as a lousy coach!
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12-25-2012, 02:01 AM
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Urban isn't taking squat from us.
We are dominating the state of Florida, which is how Florida teams dominated the 90's.
The fall of REFsu will help tremendously, as will the continued punishment of Miami despite the investigation not being done yet.
The OP of this thread is right on!!!
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12-25-2012, 05:05 AM
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Nice research.
For those who are worried about "defections" out of state, other big time football schools will get kids out of Florida. They always have and always will. But if we dominate like we are doing now over time, there will be no team in college football more talented than we are and only a select few who can match us. If Muschamp trounces FSU and Miami the way he is doing now, we can average well less than 10 out of state kids per class (hopefully elite ones cherry picked) and take a back seat to nobody on talent.
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12-25-2012, 08:14 AM
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Very nice. It puts a damper on the "sky is falling because we lost ONE of my favorite recruits" discussions.
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12-25-2012, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorMasta
The problem isn't FSU or Miami anymore..It's Bama,Jawja,USCw and soon to be Ohio St with Urban under the helm coming in and taking the ELITE Florida prospects away from us.
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Urban will get one here and there but that will be it. How many recruits really want to live in Ohio? Especially if they grew up in Florida. And for the one's that do choose Ohio, they will regret it for a few reasons.
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12-25-2012, 07:08 PM
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U miami is in the death spiral around the scumhole from where it emerged.
FSU is in the death spiral around the ACC championship, its path greased by Fisher's panty stains.
Setting the table for UF dominance for the state which rightfully belongs to Gators.
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12-25-2012, 10:01 PM
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17 out of the 25 commits FLorida has are from Florida and 6 more commits are from Georgia. You might see some more out of state kids next year
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12-25-2012, 10:21 PM
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Gator Country Silver
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
17 out of the 25 commits FLorida has are from Florida and 6 more commits are from Georgia. You might see some more out of state kids next year
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Yep. Gotta handle the home front and Muschamp is doing just that.
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12-25-2012, 10:36 PM
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Yes, a good post.
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12-26-2012, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORAZ
17 out of the 25 commits FLorida has are from Florida and 6 more commits are from Georgia. You might see some more out of state kids next year
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Yeah, if there is another state I want to see Florida make some noise in, it would be Georgia. That's another state that plays some really good football.
Some of Meyer's best players (Spikes, Harvin, Haden, Dunlap, and Hernandez) were all from different states, so it's not like there is a problem with going up the east coast to get some really good talent to salt and pepper a class with. But I'm sure Muschamp and his staff want to make it a point to have the majority of the class made up of the state's top players.
I'm just glad to see that Muschamp is getting his share of the state's top talent. If you get ten of the top 23 players instate every year in February to sign, you'll always have a team that can beat anybody.
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