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UFreak · 12-21-2012, 08:27 PM

I know it happens on this board some each year during recruiting season. But this year more than ever it seems like each time a recruit goes somewhere besides UF, there is a larger than normal contingent throwing the "cash" complaint out there.
Two things strike me with that:
1) UF is our favorite school, but not everyone's. There are many factors that go into selecting a place to play your college football. The vast majority of the time it is not because someone is getting paid.
2) All those talking about illegal recruiting do realize how much we cheated in the 80s, right? We cheated A LOT.

**hgators** · 12-21-2012, 08:38 PM

We paid for it too, fsu, Clemson, 'bama and Auburn, nor scUM have paod like we did. They still are very guilty and still do it.

There are just times when there is no othe plausible explanation.

UFreak · 12-21-2012, 08:40 PM

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There are just times when there is no othe plausible explanation.

Such as?

**G8RNTN** · 12-21-2012, 08:41 PM

What's the purpose of this thread??? Just curious...

UFreak · 12-21-2012, 08:44 PM

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What's the purpose of this thread??? Just curious...

Fair enough, I guess it's to say sometimes you lose. Sometimes you just lose. And to read all the messages of impropriety gets old?

**hgators** · 12-21-2012, 08:47 PM

I agree, sometimes other schools are more attractive for legitimate reasons. For those kids, you have to be happy. I just hate the Ernie Sims, Tim Jernigan type deals, where the kids wants to be a Gator and his coach or parent is bought off.

UFreak · 12-21-2012, 08:50 PM

Ernie Sims' dad played at FSU. How outraged would we be if Kelvin Taylor had committed to the Noles. I don't accept that Tim Jernigan or his parents were paid off. I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't believe it happened.

**DuPontGator** · 12-21-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UFreak

I know it happens on this board some each year during recruiting season. But this year more than ever it seems like each time a recruit goes somewhere besides UF, there is a larger than normal contingent throwing the "cash" complaint out there.
Two things strike me with that:
1) UF is our favorite school, but not everyone's. There are many factors that go into selecting a place to play your college football. The vast majority of the time it is not because someone is getting paid.
2) All those talking about illegal recruiting do realize how much we cheated in the 80s, right? We cheated A LOT.

You know all this how?

UFreak · 12-21-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DuPontGator

You know all this how?

What part?

**hgators** · 12-21-2012, 09:08 PM

Bobby got Ernie's brother, a convicted rapist I believe, to out the hammer down on Ernie. He paid him, plain ans simple. Ernie was devastated, he wanted to be a Gator. You can not deny the Jernigan"s recruitment is fishy and you're dealing with fsu, it is more than plausible.

UFreak · 12-21-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hgators

Bobby got Ernie's brother, a convicted rapist I believe, to out the hammer down on Ernie. He paid him, plain ans simple. Ernie was devastated, he wanted to be a Gator. You can not deny the Jernigan"s recruitment is fishy and you're dealing with fsu, it is more than plausible.

I don't know man. I'm just pretty sure many say the same about us. I'm sure there is a huge number of FSU fans who feel we did something fishy with Fowler and maybe even Fred Taylor.

**hgators** · 12-21-2012, 09:19 PM

I am sure they do. I know people say this, but believe me, and I can't say how, but am involved in this stuff and where there's smoke...

We definitely were guity as sin in the 80's.

But look at all of our competitors, they all say the teams I mentioned before cheat, there's a reason for it.

stomp_and_chomp · 12-21-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G8RNTN

What's the purpose of this thread??? Just curious...

To me, the purpose of this thread is to stop people from saying stupid things about players not selecting UF because of money... Makes us all look dumb... and really, when people throw that out there, it's more of a whine than anything else.

I love Florida, I love UF, but I only _like_ the fan-base...

There's 30+ other big-time schools offering kids their #1, guaranteed starter - no competition AT ALL, spots.... Perfect example - Stefon Diggs. It's gonna happen every year, no matter what.

stomp_and_chomp · 12-21-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hgators

Bobby got Ernie's brother, a convicted rapist I believe, to out the hammer down on Ernie. He paid him, plain ans simple. Ernie was devastated, he wanted to be a Gator. You can not deny the Jernigan"s recruitment is fishy and you're dealing with fsu, it is more than plausible.

There's been plenty of Florida kids who grew up FSU fans but chose Florida in the long run.... Another example - The Pouncey's. A more recent example - Dante Fowler Jr... I doubt Champ and the other coaches went to his house that day near NSD with a sack of cash. Same goes with Urban and the Lakeland boys, he sold playing time and an opportunity to be competitors in the SEC.

Cash being tossed around happens a lot less than you think. It does happen though... but to a much smaller degree than you think.

stomp_and_chomp · 12-21-2012, 10:31 PM

Also, another interesting tidbit, while we are on the topic. The NCAA has watchdogs, a lot like secret-shoppers, who just blend in with the masses.... reading message boards, twitter, various websites... When they hear or read something, the NCAA knows.

I am willing to believe that the NCAA looks in on a bunch of kids, over a bunch of sports, all across the nation.... and their findings bring in nothing, thus we don't ever hear about it.

And when we do hear about it, it's a big story because they busted someone... a la Reggie Bush.

The only big-time player, recently, who I believe got money from someone to attend a school was Cam Newton... Not saying that because I dislike him, I really don't... But when you wake up one morning and hear a grainy recording of his dad asking for money over the phone... RED FLAG. And, it was the NCAA who got that recording.

The NCAA is powerful.

xenythx · 12-21-2012, 10:35 PM

In most cases it's sour grapes, but Clemson is definitely dirty and everyone knows it.

stomp_and_chomp · 12-21-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xenythx

In most cases it's sour grapes, but Clemson is definitely dirty and everyone knows it.

Nahh, UF fans throw that out there against Clemson fans because every year they manage to get a kid that we really want.

If Clemson was throwing money around, then they would have landed Mike Davis last year.

The only schools with any type of swag (for Football) in all the ACC is FSU, Clemson and Miami.... All 3 schools are major competitors with the recruits we target.... Also, I am willing to say that those 3 schools gives us more competition for recruits than MOST SEC schools.

**hgators** · 12-21-2012, 10:47 PM

Coaches know, they don't rat each other out. Those stories will shock you.

LimeyGator · 12-22-2012, 03:11 AM

I think the thread is completely valid.

I also wonder, in a highly litigious environment, whether posting stuff like this leaves people open to legal action. I don't know much about law but if these comments about buying recruits is inaccurate, it sure looks like libel to me...

**fubar1** · 12-22-2012, 05:17 AM

The sad part for UF is we cheated in the 80's....but prob weren't cheating as much as Bama, Auburn, Georgia and the rest of the SEC.

It wasn't but a few years later that Eric Ramsey walked into Pat Dye's office and recorded him offering him cash. B

We were just the ones to get busted.