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Old 12-18-2012, 02:47 PM   #1
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Andy Glockner discusses.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...r_a4&eref=sihp
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:56 PM   #2
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is this a joke? 4 year starter, on pace to become all time leading scorer in UF history. Kid is Dy-no-mite. He's playing a position that does nothing to compliment his skill set and only exposes his weaknesses.

That's on coach D not Kenny
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I can't believe I just read that article. No mention of his defense, or how he is always guarding the opposing teams best guard, or his overall free throw shooting. They make it sound like we would be back to back national champs without boynton. This a joke. This is how a 4 year player that has done everything the coach asks of him gets treated. I feel bad for Kenny sometimes. Great gator
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #4
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Retarded!!
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:24 PM   #5
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is this a joke? 4 year starter, on pace to become all time leading scorer in UF history. Kid is Dy-no-mite. He's playing a position that does nothing to compliment his skill set and only exposes his weaknesses.

That's on coach D not Kenny
Eh, since they are a ton of reports that Kenny came back to work on his PG skills, I think that's just as much on Kenny. He is still developing and will get better as the season goes on.

Also, terrible article.
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Ugh...you lose a game by one point on the road to a top 10 team and all of a sudden KB is garbage. Of course no mention of how great the team was playing in the previous games blowing everyone they played out. Everyone on that team made mistakes in that game that cost us.... WY with a Tech, Murphy with the turnovers, Rosario with the terrible in bounds pass, KB poor shooting and missing the 1 and 1, the matador defense by PY and EM as Zona drove to the basket for two easy layups before the final shot....the whole team contributed to that meltdown.
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Awful article.

The article mentions John Jenkins as a guy who was clearly an asset to Vanderbilt's team and makes it clear he doesn't like Boynton, but Jenkins was a borderline defensive liability while Boynton is one of the better perimeter defenders in the country.

Boynton isn't a point guard. He doesn't handle the ball naturally and he looks for his shot before he looks to get the ball to others. He's a shooting guard and a damn good one. He's had a few rough games lately, but no one consistently shoots the ball well every game. Everyone's a hindrance on offense when they're not making shots, but Boynton makes his shots more often than not.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:31 PM   #8
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Fran Fraschilla seems to agree with the article -

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The question we all wrestle with when it comes to UF's Kenny Boynton. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...ida/index.html
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You are right on about Kenny B. He expected to be gone after year or 2. He'll be prolific 4-year starter and emblematic of current UF te ...
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Would we rather him to have bolted?

Are you freaking kidding me?! He is a player, just cold right now, and not playing his true position. I am very proud that he is a Gator!
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:23 PM   #10
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I think some of you are misinterpreting the article. It's not saying he's a bad player or that we can't win with him, but when he's cold and using a high % of our possessions, that's a problem. We lose when that happens and since we rely on him so much, that can be hard to overcome.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:04 PM   #11
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Boynton is shutting people down. But I don't expect a chubby journalist to understand defense.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:53 PM   #12
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I didn't take the article the way a lot of you did; he points out the problems with Kenny's game and that's fair especially since we're getting pub as a potential title contender.

Flip side I agree the time and effort Kenny spends on defense isn't mentioned - but the last couple years Kenny's been put on the other team's best player knowing that he won't also be bringing the ball up court. This year he's had to give that defending role to Wilbekin so he can focus on developing his PG skills.

It's a work in progress. Here's the thing though, we have to stay with Yeguete at the 3 in the starting role so Scottie can sub at the 1. By the end of the game Scottie will have starter minutes, but if Rosario's having an off night and coach has to run Boynton and Wilbekin at the same time - where does the sub PG time come from?

Frazier is the logical 2 but I don't think Donovan wants to rush him into major minutes unless he's hot so he doesn't hit the wall halfway through the SEC slate.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #13
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I really can't believe this is even a discussion. It was just last season that some of us were nervous he might bolt. I'll take KB on my team anytime, anywhere. There is way too much pile on for a few bad shooting games this year while playing out of his normal position, which, oh by the way, was because of something off the court that SW did to get suspended.

If we beat Arizona, this crap doesn't even come up for discussion.

I don't normally get pissed off, but I can't stand how fickle some people can be.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:25 PM   #14
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And yes, I realize that KB was going to play some PG this year regardless but I am sure Billy never intended him to be the starting PG....that's Scottie's role.
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I too have complained historically about how frequently Boynton shoots the ball, and, until last year, when he started hitting a good percentage of his shots, felt that, despite his defensive prowess, he didn't necessarily contribute that much to the team's overall success. Last year, he hit a high percentage of his 3s, which excuses excessive shooting.

This year, so far, he is hitting only 31% of his 3-point shots, and 47% overall.

This is not good given that so far, he has taken 29% of all 3-point shots yet only 16% of all FG attempts.

Donovan notes how he is playing PG a lot, and guarding top offensive players, which is a legitimate excuse.

I do think he pointed out Boynton's weak points. I don't think he gave him credit for his outstanding defense.

As a result, it was a negatively biased article.
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KB is the heart and soul of this team, imo.
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I wish people would leave Boynton the hell alone. He is being so much more of a team player this year and not thinking "shoot first " all the time. He is trying to play a little point guard to help his TEAM. If you have a problem with Boynton then you probably aren't a BIG UF basketball fan IMHO.
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I'm certainly glad Boynton is on the team. He's made us better for four years now.
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I'm certainly glad Boynton is on the team. He's made us better for four years now.
This. Anyone actually think UF is better w/o Kenny?
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It's no coincidence that we made it back to the tourney the year KB stepped on campus
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