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Old 01-24-2013, 01:04 PM   #121
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Meanwhile, while Johnson is complaining about not being told anything, Kerry points out that there was a briefing where all the intelligence was explained. Johnson, who has been grandstanding during this hearing, didn't bother to attend, of course.

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Meanwhile, while Johnson is complaining about not being told anything, Kerry points out that there was a briefing where all the intelligence was explained. Johnson, who has been grandstanding during this hearing, didn't bother to attend, of course.


Just WHO does this guy think he is? Obama?
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:19 PM   #123
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Meanwhile, while Johnson is complaining about not being told anything, Kerry points out that there was a briefing where all the intelligence was explained. Johnson, who has been grandstanding during this hearing, didn't bother to attend, of course.

Just to be clear, was this that briefing timed intentionally for a period when it is well known and anticipated that almost nobody is in town and was declared a one shot deal, or some other briefing?

There is really just no bottom, is there? Always more down, always a lower place.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:28 PM   #124
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:08 PM   #125
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After a decade of war and lost lives in the thousands - most of them a direct result of the policies advocated by those screaming the loudest - it is amazing to find the focus narrowed to the loss of 4 in an operation which was a wild success and with minimal total loss. A few facts:

1 We/they didn't know what had occurred in the immediate aftermath.

2 We shouldn't expect the detailed "truth" when investigation and pursuit are ongoing.

3 There was no real time video of the event.

4 Except for those trying to catch them, who cares whether it was all or partly motivated by a film or advanced planning.
Hillary Clinton is a bald face liar and has a history of lying for men
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:05 PM   #126
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Apparently the 'real time video' is a creation of Fox.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:30 PM   #127
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What does "Accepting Responsibility" mean? In the case of Hillary Clinton it is nothing more than empty words. When she stood by Obama as the caskets of dead Americans came home she should have been thinking "What could I have done to prevent this?"
As usual the only thing the Senate Democrats could do is warble about her accomplishments. Politics as usual.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:59 PM   #128
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Apparently the 'real time video' is a creation of Fox.


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Legislators saw a "real-time film (showing) exactly what happened" on September 11 in Benghazi, starting before the attack began up "through the incident and the exodus," said Feinstein. A source familiar with the House committee hearing said the video included shots of Stevens being dragged out of the building. Sen. Dan Coats, an Indiana Republican, described the footage as "a combination of video from a surveillance camera and a drone."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/politi...ngs/index.html
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Apparently the 'real time video' is a creation of Fox.
If that is true then please explain how CNN got into the act
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Washington (CNN) - Thanks to testimony and "real-time" video, lawmakers said they got their clearest picture yet Thursday of the deadly attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya, though questions and tensions remain as to how President Barack Obama's administration handled the matter.
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If that is true then please explain how CNN got into the act

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/politi...ngs/index.html
Yes, a video of it arrived in DC weeks later, as Clinton said. What Fox created and what the GOP senator asked Clinton today was about whether officials in Washington DC watched the attack unfold on a monitor as it happened. That didn't happen, despite how many times Hannity said it did.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:28 AM   #131
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Yes, a video of it arrived in DC weeks later, as Clinton said. What Fox created and what the GOP senator asked Clinton today was about whether officials in Washington DC watched the attack unfold on a monitor as it happened. That didn't happen, despite how many times Hannity said it did.
The drone feed was real time but please keep drinking the koolaid and ignoring the facts
0 had to get to Vegas so no time to be involved while embassy is being attacked and ambassador killed
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Yes, a video of it arrived in DC weeks later, as Clinton said. What Fox created and what the GOP senator asked Clinton today was about whether officials in Washington DC watched the attack unfold on a monitor as it happened. That didn't happen, despite how many times Hannity said it did.
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The drone feed was real time but please keep drinking the koolaid and ignoring the facts
0 had to get to Vegas so no time to be involved while embassy is being attacked and ambassador killed
you're still claiming that back in DC, officials were watching the attack in real time? as it happened?
what are you basing that on?
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:08 AM   #134
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I doubt the administration even knew it was happening until a day or so later when they heard it on tv.
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you're still claiming that back in DC, officials were watching the attack in real time? as it happened?
what are you basing that on?
Wow, if there is a drone obtaining real-time video don't you think someone is one the other end watching? Of course there were gov officials watching it in real time and you would have to be naive to think otherwise.
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It's amusing how the same people that would like to barbecue Hillary or Obama in oil over Benghazi give Bush and his crew a total free pass over the cluster f*** that was Iraq.
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The Executive Office holds our military commissioned officers to what can be considered the world's highest standards for responsibility and accountability. One mis step by the lowest ranked enlisted man on lowest deck of a super carrier can result in the early retirement of the carrier's captain.

No one squawks about that kind of accountability and responsibility. Yet a lot of the posters on this board want to turn a blind eye to the lack of accountability and responsibility for the Executive Office and it's Cabinet officers.

The US Department of State has a very crucial and a high profile international mission. This mission requires the same accountability and responsibility as that is placed on our military. There is no room for do overs in State Department business. Especially in Libya a country that just got out of a civil war, is unstable, and has known AQ/Terrorist activity.

It is very evident that the US State Department allowed the Ambassador to be in harms way with out adequate security and with the knowledge that the situation was dangerous. The US State Department was more than negligent in not recognizing the risk, not having a contingency plan (considering the available resources), and for looking like the Keystone Cops as this tragedy unfolded and played out for the next month or two.

Today I read in the news that the scape goats identified by the heads of the US State Department are still on the payroll. The official line on this item is that policy/procedure protects the jobs of these people. Up to a point I am OK with that excuse. What ticks me off is that the jobs of these middle level people are better protected than the lives of the four people who were killed in Benghazi.

This week Hillary Clinton gave us a glimpse of what we have seen from Obama during the last four years and what we will see in 2017 if she is elected President. The glimpse is the lack of accountability and responsibility in form of lack of consequences and shifting of the blame into others.

What we saw in Benghazi this past September was a preview of what we are going to see for the next four years. A lot of people laughed at Mitt Romney when he said that we need to keep an eye on Mali. They also ignored the CBS correspondent who said that AG was still a force to be dealt with. Well because of Obama's myopic view of the world and the lowering of the bar in expectations for accountability and responsibility there is military action in Mali and 80 plus dead in an Algerian oil/gas facility. Also, it is now being report that the arms used in Mali and in Algeria came from Libya. To make matters worst some of the attackers in Algeria were at the Benghazi raid.

Bottom line is no matter how you spin it that Benghazi was a major cluster f#%k with an adverse domino effect. Hillary Clinton and her immediate subordinates are not fit to serve this country another day.

If Obama continues his current style of leadership we will see more incidents like Benghazi, Mali, and Algeria. We will also see it in our own homeland.
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Wow, if there is a drone obtaining real-time video don't you think someone is one the other end watching? Of course there were gov officials watching it in real time and you would have to be naive to think otherwise.
IDK... how many video feeds does our govt have globally at any given time?

Is somebody watching all of them real time? Perhaps.

Who watches the feeds and how/when those feeds get escalated to actionable levels and finally the White House level is something that bares questioning if we really want to know what happened here. Although I doubt a straight answer would be given as that could compromise national security if an enemy knows we have monitors but also knows we aren't likely to do anything with them based on published protocols.
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you're still claiming that back in DC, officials were watching the attack in real time? as it happened?
what are you basing that on?
Satellites and drones.
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