Recognizing the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

[kafdmd]

This is very big news for anyone that has known about the original 13th Amendment.

A lot has been written about this FRAUD. And the bill also brings to the fore the Act of 1871, the altering of the national government of one of, by, and for The People, to a CORPORATION.

Recognizing the original Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution


This is absolutely huge for everyone, democrat/republican/liberal/conservative/black/white/red/blue. Stop fighting each other over distractions such as defining marriage, birth certificates, etc and understand what this means. Educate each other and truly come together as We the People.

This needs to be done in each state immediately. Forward this to your state representative for action and spread the word far and wide. This has far reaching positive implications.

We should demand to get our original government back and this is the start.

If you don't know enough about the significance of this, stop what you are doing and research it. You will be shocked to learn the truth.

[tegator80]

I would love for our population to "get religion" over where the real power is supposed to lie - in the states - but I am afraid that that ship sailed a long time ago. We want things cheap and easy and we see a powerful Federal government as the way to achieve that. And before any of you poo poo the idea that the FG is cheaper, remember that is NOT what the general population sees. They see the states having fiscal calamities and the Feds partying all of the time.

We are stupid, unfocused and self serving. And we will reap what we sow.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by kafdmd

If you don't know enough about the significance of this, stop what you are doing and research it. You will be shocked to learn the truth.

Can you expound? If you're talking about the Titles of Nobility clause, I don't see much importance to it on its face.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

It has been claimed that the TONA became part of the U.S. Constitution—indeed many printings of the Constitution during the 19th century erroneously included it as a Thirteenth Amendment.[1] Perhaps this misunderstanding could be traced to the mistaken belief that both houses of South Carolina's legislature had acted favorably upon the TONA when, evidently, only one of its houses did so. It can also be attributed to the misimpression that both houses of Virginia's legislature had adopted the TONA—again, when apparently only one of its houses did so. In general, 19th century procedures for communicating and recording the ratifications of constitutional amendments were haphazard and some printings of the Constitution included the amendment out of uncertainty. Many other 19th century printings omit it.[1]
There is a further misapprehension that the TONA was—at all stages in the ratification process—just one state's adoption shy of being incorporated into the United States Constitution.[1]
When the TONA was offered by the Congress to the state legislatures on May 1, 1810, the approval of 13 of them would indeed have been required. However, with the addition of Louisiana into the Union on April 30, 1812, that threshold increased to 14 state approvals. Louisiana's statehood commenced after the Massachusetts ratification of the TONA, but prior to the New Hampshire ratification of it. Then, when Indiana was admitted on December 11, 1816, the bar was raised up to 15 approvals needed to ratify the TONA. Although the admission of Mississippi on December 10, 1817, did not increase the numerical requirement, the entry of Illinois on December 3, 1818, did elevate that minimum to 16 state adoptions necessary for the TONA to be incorporated into the Constitution.[1]
The term "Thirteenthers" is sometimes used to refer to those who mistakenly believe this amendment was ratified or to those who would like to see ratification of this proposed amendment.[2][10]
Not until 1865 was a proposed Thirteenth Amendment adopted. That amendment abolished slavery throughout the United States.[11]

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[MichiGator2002]

I am hardly a "thirteenther", never heard of it until now, have no idea whether it was validly ratified or not.

But I certainly don't think at a skim I would think it inappropriate. If it was ratified, what would be the big deal with that? If a wealth American wants to buy a hereditary title from a British accountant, and it implicitly strips citizenship, what of it? I would revise it with a due process term, but I think its implicit (I.e. the right to dispute whether you took a title or whether the amendment applies to this or that).

[GatorBen]

Let me just drop in to leave an "LOL" on this post.

The Act of 1871 merged the District of Columbia and Georgetown city governments to create a single city government for the District of Columbia. That's it. How in the world that supposedly relates to the titles of nobility, I have no idea, but no one ever said that conspiracy theories had to have any logic behind them.

[The_Ultimate_Gator]

Oh, this ought to be good.

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

Let me just drop in to leave an "LOL" on this post.

The Act of 1871 merged the District of Columbia and Georgetown city governments to create a single city government for the District of Columbia. That's it. How in the world that supposedly relates to the titles of nobility, I have no idea, but no one ever said that conspiracy theories had to have any logic behind them.

lulz is the only response.