Harrison Twins

[BigIgator25]

Watched their game on espn tonight and I came away kinda indifferent, I see nothing really special about their games. They are solid players, but nothing jumps out and makes me say wow. Now the Gordon kid from California is a special athlete, the block he had tonight was crazy. If Kentucky gets him then I think he is the best of the 3 kids who played tonight.

[akaGatorhoops]

I watched... and thought the same, though tough to make a judgement on one game. I tend to look at the intangibles. A. Harrison often seemed to be sulking and didnt have the best body language.
Gordon, was the opposite.

[Jstewie15]

I watched... and thought the same, though tough to make a judgement on one game. I tend to look at the intangibles. A. Harrison often seemed to be sulking and didnt have the best body language.
Gordon, was the opposite Well Harrison should fit well with Calapari lol

[InstiGATOR1]

I did not watch my cable is out, but the mythical 6'5"+ PG is like the mythical 6+ CB. Any college recruit who are those sizes have to show me they can play those positions.

Sure there have been some all pro guys like that at CB and yes Erving Johnson really did exist, but these types are very very rare. So until proven differently, I think UK's current class is composed so far of 3 wing players, a big and another big who is basically an invited walkon. Wiggins would be a great get for anyone, but it would just mean UK now has 4 wings in its class and you can't play 4 wings.

[madgator]

I have seen the Harrison twins play 3 different times....never been overly impressed. MUCH happier having Kasey Hill in our class

he should be #3 overall in the class.....without question. last years play against Findlay prep followed up with his performance in the adidas should've solidified that status.

[int1974]

They did not look like top 5-10 players. If They were 6'2 not sure they are thought of this high. good players, just did not look elite.

[dailydoublecat]

Well this Kentucky fan is THRILLED to have the Harrison twins in the fold---they are both special, special players. The great thing is we will all find out!

Jeff

[int1974]

Jeff did you think they looked like top 5 players? Good Size was the best thing about them to me. I would take them, but just expected more.

[gatordd]

Harrisons are solid - top tier NBA guys? Not at this point... I'd take Gordon over the Harrisons...

Also, that dad is going to be annoying - you could tell by his body language during the game

Hill >>>> Harrisons

I don't understand how everyone else doesn't see this...

[dailydoublecat]

Originally Posted by int1974

Jeff did you think they looked like top 5 players? Good Size was the best thing about them to me. I would take them, but just expected more.

I didnt watch one second of action but have watched them in Orlando the last two years. I do understand what you mean about expecting more however. The one issue I have about both of them is they do sulk--but I figured if Cal could get getting Cousins attention then the twins should be easy LOL.

Jeff

[dailydoublecat]

Originally Posted by gatordd

Harrisons are solid - top tier NBA guys? Not at this point... I'd take Gordon over the Harrisons...

Also, that dad is going to be annoying - you could tell by his body language during the game

Hill >>>> Harrisons

I don't understand how everyone else doesn't see this...

DD---what a great point. I have no idea how these people do the rankings etc. I know I am AWFUL at being a talent scout. I can remember watching Jeremy Lamb and I was like Woo Im glad we didnt get him, LMAO--all he does is kill us in the Final Four

Jeff

[gatordd]

Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

DD---what a great point. I have no idea how these people do the rankings etc. I know I am AWFUL at being a talent scout. I can remember watching Jeremy Lamb and I was like Woo Im glad we didnt get him, LMAO--all he does is kill us in the Final Four

Jeff

It's impossible to be certain on an 18 year old kid, I don't care how skilled. You guys need to wrap up Gordon though Jeff, that kid is going to be special when he has a true position and some discipline on offense

[dailydoublecat]

Originally Posted by gatordd

It's impossible to be certain on an 18 year old kid, I don't care how skilled. You guys need to wrap up Gordon though Jeff, that kid is going to be special when he has a true position and some discipline on offense

I think we come in third with Gordon--i think AZ is the team to beat with UW right there as well, however I am wrong every day!

Jeff

[REM08]

Originally Posted by gatordd

Harrisons are solid - top tier NBA guys? Not at this point... I'd take Gordon over the Harrisons...

Also, that dad is going to be annoying - you could tell by his body language during the game

Hill >>>> Harrisons

I don't understand how everyone else doesn't see this...

You're at least correct that most feel differently.

Of the major recruiting sites, Andrew (the PG) is ranked 2nd in the class in 2 of them and 4th at the lowest. Every site that I've seen has him pegged as the top PG. Aaron is ranked between 3 and 5 in each site. While I think it has become trendy lately to label them "overrated", none of the recruiting sites seem to agree. Draft Express says this about Andrew:

Arguably the most talented guard in all of high school basketball. Top-shelf NBA prospect. Will be a game-changer from day one in college. Needs to improve in the areas most superstar prep players do as the competition stiffens. Has had a lot of attention come his way from a very young age. Can't let that go to his head at this early stage of his development. Needs to find a real position? If he's a point guard, will need to improve playmaking ability creating offense for teammates. If he's a shooting guard, must improve ability to play off the ball.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2F2oBKyVs
http://www.draftexpress.com

Other national articles have predicted they make up the best back court in college basketball next year.

Obviously, the above does not totally negate any possible negative assessments you guys have made after watching them play. We all can have our takes on them. One thing I'd keep in mind about last night (in addition to it just being one game) was that Andrew had a hamstring issue and wasn't going to play in the game until it was decided otherwise close to game time.

Call me biased, but I don't see how statements like "I'd take Hill over the twins...etc" make any sense. For one thing, they're twice as many players - both rated higher than Hill (not that rankings are gospel - I just saw one site had Austin Rivers ahead of Anthony Davis). I have nothing against Hill and think he'll be great. I guess one advantage for him is that maybe, maybe because of his height, he sticks around longer than the twins? I think Hill wins in the attitude area. Thats one thing Cal is going to have to work on with the twins from what I've seen of them. I also think Hill is better in several aspects of the game, but not enough for me to offset Andrew's better areas and size.

Luckily we won't have to wait long with only rankings and our opinions to go by. Next year will give us all the evidence we need.


BTW, I agree Gordon's a nice player. He won't be at UK IMO though. He's gonna have many dunks on Sportscenter's top 10 though. Still think there's no player in this class that compares to Wiggins.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I did not watch my cable is out, but the mythical 6'5"+ PG is like the mythical 6+ CB. Any college recruit who are those sizes have to show me they can play those positions.

Sure there have been some all pro guys like that at CB and yes Erving Johnson really did exist, but these types are very very rare. So until proven differently, I think UK's current class is composed so far of 3 wing players, a big and another big who is basically an invited walkon. Wiggins would be a great get for anyone, but it would just mean UK now has 4 wings in its class and you can't play 4 wings.

I'll give you credit, you've always been consistent with this position. Andrew isn't pure point. Probably more of a combo guard - but IMO less of one than Tyreke Evans was. John Wall was listed at 6'4 and actually was a point guard. Is it just that Andrews listed at an inch taller that you wonder? I actually think playing these years with his brother (who is the more polished scorer) will help Andrew adjust to playing with other options in college - actually making his transition easier. We'll see I guess.

[dailydoublecat]

Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I did not watch my cable is out, but the mythical 6'5"+ PG is like the mythical 6+ CB. Any college recruit who are those sizes have to show me they can play those positions.

Sure there have been some all pro guys like that at CB and yes Erving Johnson really did exist, but these types are very very rare. So until proven differently, I think UK's current class is composed so far of 3 wing players, a big and another big who is basically an invited walkon. Wiggins would be a great get for anyone, but it would just mean UK now has 4 wings in its class and you can't play 4 wings.

Willis going to be better than people think IMHO. People preach they want to see talent grow, well he will be an example, will he sprout or will he wither?

Jeff

[REM08]

Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

Willis going to be better than people think IMHO. People preach they want to see talent grow, well he will be an example, will he sprout or will he wither?

Jeff

Agree on Willis. People always talk about how Cal needs to target multi-year players also - yet criticize the recruit once Cal gets a player like this.

[int1974]

Going to some great battles next few year, between Ken & Fla.
C- Harris/C.Walker
PF- Yeg/C.Walker
SF- Prather/Smith/Walker
SG- Frazier/Graham/Walker.
PG- Wilbekin/ Hill/ Braxton

If we add Johnson or Randle, the party is over////

[UFG8rGuy3283]

I don't know much about either of them. I've seen them play once on TV and they weren't playing very good competition.

I'll say this...the fact that they've been playing together their whole lives and will be playing in college together tells me that they should have a leg up in the transition. It is much easier as a human being in general to go to a new town and start college with a sibling than headed off to a new place where you may only know a couple of guys from the AAU circuit. Now I realize that times have changes and these guys do a lot of Twitter/Facebook/Texting to keep in contact so it's not quite like it used to be, but I would still consider it an advantage.

With that said, Cal is going to have a challenge on his hands from what I've read/heard about their father. He seems like he's "very involved". If, and that's a big if, the twins are as difficult as it has been said they are, the reason is pretty clear.

Coaches wanted them for a reason, though, so I'm sure there's a ton of talent there. I just don't know how these sites can say things like "top shelf NBA talent" for an 18 year old kid unless it's a Lebron or Dwight Howard type. College to NBA, for a multitude of reasons, is the biggest jump of any to make.

I'm sure UK and Cal are very happy to have them in the fold.

[dailydoublecat]

The UK-UF wars next year is going to be something else!! I cant wait--this years I hope we can match up when the time comes!

Jeff