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InstiGATOR1 · 12-04-2012, 01:42 PM

Dan Hanner takes a look at how the top 80 recruits from the class of 2012 are faring early in the season:

http://basketball.realgm.com/article...its_Have_Fared

I had of course heard about the UK guys. I have noticed that Tony Parker was doing little at UCLA. So I was quite curious about the other guys UF recruited were doing early this season.

**MJGator8104** · 12-04-2012, 01:53 PM

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Efficiency is also important, and Kyle Anderson’s 87.9 ORtg is terrible for an elite recruit. Point guards can struggle more than other players to adapt to the college game and Anderson was considered to have point guard skills out of high school. So perhaps Anderson’s struggles aren’t a complete surprise.

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I really think the problem with Anderson is that Ben Howland hasn’t figured out how to use him. Lots of coaches from Rick Pitino to John Thompson III have been able to feature great lanky passers, by positioning them at the high post and letting them see the whole floor. Anderson still has the potential to be that type of player, even if he has struggled early.

You think BD would have had a problem figuring out how to use Anderson best? Anderson made a huge mistake.

UFG8rGuy3283 · 12-04-2012, 01:58 PM

Great find. I noticed that McGary and Parker are not doing a lot but Bennett is certainly having himself a good season at UNLV it looks. Still a little disappointed we didn't get him. Would have done wonders for our front court depth this year.

Nice read.

madgator · 12-04-2012, 01:59 PM

As stated in other threads...Michael Frazier should've been ranked between 40-50

**MJGator8104** · 12-04-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by madgator

As stated in other threads...Michael Frazier should've been ranked between 40-50

Agree, BO (54) was our only player in the top 80. I know Frazier was listed higher before he committed to UF, why did he drop so much? Was part of the problem the fact that he decided to work on other aspects of his game so his three point shooting seemed to slump or something else?

**sec1** · 12-04-2012, 02:06 PM

i agree...

madgator · 12-04-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MJGator8104

Agree, BO (54) was our only player in the top 80. I know Frazier was listed higher before he committed to UF, why did he drop so much? Was part of the problem the fact that he decided to work on other aspects of his game so his three point shooting seemed to slump or something else?

I think that he slumped in part due to his transfer to Monteverde Academy. he wasn't able to display his full talents and took on a secondary role.

at that point it didn't matter, he was already firmly committed to us. so a slip in the rankings would only matter if ego was an issue.

clearly this isn't the case. makes me like him even more.

InstiGATOR1 · 12-04-2012, 02:42 PM

I agree on the Monteverde transfer hurting Frazier. I think it was more due to his numbers falling a good deal and analysists not understanding or bothering to think about why.

bakaduin · 12-04-2012, 04:45 PM

Looking through the list at the many players we "whiffed" on this year in recruiting makes me not so sad. The only ones who seem to be tearing it up are Poythress and Bennett.

tupacbiff · 12-04-2012, 05:39 PM

Don't underestimate a player choosing UF and being downgraded easier Most analysts are blue blood and ACC bias.

UFG8rGuy3283 · 12-04-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bakaduin

Looking through the list at the many players we "whiffed" on this year in recruiting makes me not so sad. The only ones who seem to be tearing it up are Poythress and Bennett.

Ironically enough the two guys we probably wanted the most....

InstiGATOR1 · 12-04-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UFG8rGuy3283

Ironically enough the two guys we probably wanted the most....

UF possibly wanted Anderson the most or thought they had the best shot at him over Poythress. Of course as someone pointed out in this thread, UF probably could have used him better than UCLA will. Of course Anderson might well be behind Prather if he were here and getting him might have cost UF Finney-Smith.

**MJGator8104** · 12-05-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

UF possibly wanted Anderson the most or thought they had the best shot at home over Poythress. Of course as someone pointed out in this thread, UF probably could have used him better than UCLA will. Of course Anderson might well be behind Prather if he were here and getting him might have cost UF Finney-Smith.

That is quite true and I'm very happy we got Finney-Smith.

demosthenes · 12-05-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MJGator8104

That is quite true and I'm very happy we got Finney-Smith.

I'm not sold either way yet. Moss, Macklin, and Rosario didn't/haven't exactly performed lights out for us. Moss and Macklin certainly had key roles but I tend to like the players that grow up in Donovan's system better. Especially one so talented...

themistocles · 12-05-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tupacbiff

Don't underestimate a player choosing UF and being downgraded easier Most analysts are blue blood and ACC bias.

So, Tupa, why does this happen to UF recruits, but not to Ky recruits?

Is that because Ky is "blue blood" country, despite being in the SEC?

tupacbiff · 12-05-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by themistocles

So, Tupa, why does this happen to UF recruits, but not to Ky recruits?

Is that because Ky is "blue blood" country, despite being in the SEC?

Yes UK is consider a traditional power prog. A few years ago on telep's site before he was assoc w ESPN a poster did a whole analysis on this. Everyone should know that telep is known to have an ACC bias especially NC teams. Poster showed players showing he biggest jump in his rankings committed to ACC schools and biggest drop to sec schools (major Conf only). Of course the post was removed and the poster banned.

I'm sure other recruiting analysts let their personal bias influence rankings. It goes to being lazy and not Seeing enough of the prospect to make a actual analysis.

It's like if you know unc desperately wants player a and is not interested in player b. both play the same pos w similar skill sets. Player b is only being recruited by mid tier major Conf teams. It's easy to assume player a is better but not always the case.

REM08 · 12-05-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tupacbiff

Yes UK is consider a traditional power prog. A few years ago on telep's site before he was assoc w ESPN a poster did a whole analysis on this. Everyone should know that telep is known to have an ACC bias especially NC teams. Poster showed players showing he biggest jump in his rankings committed to ACC schools and biggest drop to sec schools (major Conf only). Of course the post was removed and the poster banned.

I'm sure other recruiting analysts let their personal bias influence rankings. It goes to being lazy and not Seeing enough of the prospect to make a actual analysis.

It's like if you know unc desperately wants player a and is not interested in player b. both play the same pos w similar skill sets. Player b is only being recruited by mid tier major Conf teams. It's easy to assume player a is better but not always the case.

I've read similar posts to the one you mention and in general its hard to deny that this happens. I think it happens most with players outside the top 10 or so and that its far worse in football. But it still happens.

I'm a little skeptical that this would impact Florida much though. I'd think Donovan has earned enough respect that he's separated himself from being lumped in as a typical SEC basketball program.