Karl Towns to UK

[madgator]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I've always wondered why academics mattered to anyone who has no intention of staying in school long enough to make a serious dent on the credits required for graduation.

Knight and Beal were exceptions because they attended college preparatory high schools and had earned college credits while in high school.

As for the vast majority, it makes no sense. What does a college major matter when you never get past basic general education classes that most freshman and sophomores take.

Funny that the player from UK that attended the college preperatory school is the one that said UK is the fastest way to the league.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by madgator

Funny that the player from UK that attended the college preperatory school is the one that said UK is the fastest way to the league.

The players he mentioned were exceptions in that they had, by all appearances, put more effort into their education prior to college than the average athlete. The fact that both stayed in college only one year, whether it be at UK or UF, actually just proves his point even better.

Just like a future lawyer who wants to attend the best law school, the top recruits are future basketball players who want the environment that will prepare them best for their future. Academic talk, for the most part, is silly. I think players should be able to major in their sport, or maybe in being a future pro athlete. Financial literacy courses and PR stuff would be helpful. Actors and musicians can select a major tailored to their specific future, why not athletes?

[madgator]

Originally Posted by REM08

The players he mentioned were exceptions in that they had, by all appearances, put more effort into their education prior to college than the average athlete. The fact that both stayed in college only one year, whether it be at UK or UF, actually just proves his point even better.

Just like a future lawyer who wants to attend the best law school, the top recruits are future basketball players who want the environment that will prepare them best for their future. Academic talk, for the most part, is silly. I think players should be able to major in their sport, or maybe in being a future pro athlete. Financial literacy courses and PR stuff would be helpful. Actors and musicians can select a major tailored to their specific future, why not athletes?

I can agree with this 100%

[BEH]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I've always wondered why academics mattered to anyone who has no intention of staying in school long enough to make a serious dent on the credits required for graduation.

Knight and Beal were exceptions because they attended college preparatory high schools and had earned college credits while in high school.

As for the vast majority, it makes no sense. What does a college major matter when you never get past basic general education classes that most freshman and sophomores take.

I am a chemistry major and a bunch of my chemistry classmates were gone in two years to medical school. In fact the brightest were the ones who got accepted early.

Those doctors are such whores, they screw their undergrad schools by not even trying to get a degree.

Plus those doctors are not going to get a $3,000,000 a year offer their freshman years. So are they dumb asses for leaving school early to go to medical school?

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by BEH

I am a chemistry major and a bunch of my chemistry classmates were gone in two years to medical school. In fact the brightest were the ones who got accepted early.

Those doctors are such whores, they screw their undergrad schools by not even trying to get a degree.

Plus those doctors are not going to get a $3,000,000 a year offer their freshman years. So are they dumb asses for leaving school early to go to medical school?

I'm talking about individuals who have no interest in school. Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?

Just me posing a question. As usual, a snide response from you.

[BEH]

Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I'm talking about individuals who have no interest in school. Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?

Just me posing a question. As usual, a snide response from you.

I gave a snide response? You just indicate that UK basketball players have no interest in school and that UK has a horrible academic reputation. That suits me fine because neither represent the truth. Under Calipari UK's basketball players grades are close to the top of the SEC.

A degree from any SEC school is worth a lot. The acedemic reputation of Kentucky is more than adequate for anyone with either an undergrad or graduate degree.

[UFG8rGuy3283]

Originally Posted by BEH

I gave a snide response? You just indicate that UK basketball players have no interest in school and that UK has a horrible academic reputation. That suits me fine because neither represent the truth. Under Calipari UK's basketball players grades are close to the top of the SEC.

A degree from any SEC school is worth a lot. The acedemic reputation of Kentucky is more than adequate for anyone with either an undergrad or graduate degree.

I don't see anywhere in this thread where he said that UK players have no interest in school and UK has a horrible academic reputation.

The question that he posed was a fair one, one that even your fellow UK fan REM could understand and gave a great response to, which I agree with 100%.

I understand your love and passion for UK and that you feel like Cal and your institution are exceptional. I get it. I feel the same way about UF. Sometimes I think you are just a bit oversensitive to the discussion.

[UFG8rGuy3283]

To add to that....I am under no false impression as some are that upper echelon players like Hill or Walker that have committed to UF are here for anything but to get what they feel is the best coaching and preparation for a career in the NBA.

Kids like that do not choose a school based on academics, period. Any assumption otherwise, IMO, is not looking at the reality of the situation truthfully.

FWIW, I used to work for a doctor who got his degree from UK and he was brilliant. To me, success in your profession has much less to do with the education once you get to college than it has to do with the individual and his/her work ethic and how they apply their knowledge. Are there perceived differences between a degree from Harvard and UF? Sure, but it doesn't guarantee or gauge one's professional success.

As for the thread's original title that got hijacked....Karl Towns will be a 1 and done making a ton of cash in the NBA no matter where he chose to go to school, so it's really a mute point.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by UFG8rGuy3283

To add to that....I am under no false impression as some are that upper echelon players like Hill or Walker that have committed to UF are here for anything but to get what they feel is the best coaching and preparation for a career in the NBA.

Kids like that do not choose a school based on academics, period. Any assumption otherwise, IMO, is not looking at the reality of the situation truthfully.

FWIW, I used to work for a doctor who got his degree from UK and he was brilliant. To me, success in your profession has much less to do with the education once you get to college than it has to do with the individual and his/her work ethic and how they apply their knowledge. Are there perceived differences between a degree from Harvard and UF? Sure, but it doesn't guarantee or gauge one's professional success.

As for the thread's original title that got hijacked....Karl Towns will be a 1 and done making a ton of cash in the NBA no matter where he chose to go to school, so it's really a mute point.

Amen to that.

[BEH]

Originally Posted by UFG8rGuy3283

I don't see anywhere in this thread where he said that UK players have no interest in school and UK has a horrible academic reputation.

Here is the part "Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?"

Translation of 'the place' is the University of Kentucky.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by BEH

Here is the part "Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?"

Translation of 'the place' is the University of Kentucky.

Actually, translation of "the place" is any place they decide to play at, not just UK.

[UFG8rGuy3283]

Originally Posted by BEH

Here is the part "Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?"

Translation of 'the place' is the University of Kentucky.

We will agree to disagree. I don't want to speak for the original poster, but that was not my interpretation. My interpretation was he meant any school of their choice and the "HAVE" was due to the 1 year college rule.

Maybe he would like to clarify for the sake of the discussion not getting sidetracked.

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by BEH

Here is the part "Why would they care about the academic reputation of the place that they HAVE to attend for the one year they are unable to work (play ball) for a living?"

Translation of 'the place' is the University of Kentucky.

What language are you translating? It's definitely not English.

And you are snide and condescending. That is not up for argument.

[tommyuf21]

Originally Posted by UFG8rGuy3283

We will agree to disagree. I don't want to speak for the original poster, but that was not my interpretation. My interpretation was he meant any school of their choice and the "HAVE" was due to the 1 year college rule.

Maybe he would like to clarify for the sake of the discussion not getting sidetracked.

That would be correct. They HAVE to spend one year at an academic institution playing basketball before they can become professionals. The vast majority of them will never return to the campus in order to attend class.

Does the academic reputation of a school matter to those?

I would think not. I don't know what is so hard for him to understand.

[Msgreentea]

When some of these one and done kids (not all of the but many) talk about academics being important I really think they mean the school with the easiest no hassle, don't go to a real class, rocks for jocks on-online curriculum. You know semi-pro ball that has a requirement you sit in front of a computer an hour or so four days a week and click on the bird picture.

[MJGator8104]

Originally Posted by Msgreentea

When some of these one and done kids (not all of the but many) talk about academics being important I really think they mean the school with the easiest no hassle, don't go to a real class, rocks for jocks on-online curriculum. You know semi-pro ball that has a requirement you sit in front of a computer an hour or so four days a week and click on the bird picture.

Exactly.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by Msgreentea

When some of these one and done kids (not all of the but many) talk about academics being important I really think they mean the school with the easiest no hassle, don't go to a real class, rocks for jocks on-online curriculum. You know semi-pro ball that has a requirement you sit in front of a computer an hour or so four days a week and click on the bird picture.

Fair to say I guess. I would say the same of many multiyear players as well. Football as well as basketball. I also wouldn't exclude pretty much any school from setting things up this way for athletes. UNC is the finest example - and one where it was actually football that was worse than basketball.

[Msgreentea]

A football player may be looking for the easiest way through but a one and done is not looking for a way through- just the easiest way to stay eligible for two semesters and hopefully also not hurting school apr. That is a much easier task.