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Old 10-23-2012, 08:52 AM   #21
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I hope you dont bet because you would lose a lot of money with statements like this.

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I do bet and do really well. It's probably because I understand betting and betting lines better than just about everyone. It's why I consistently make $ year after year.

I firmly believe uk could go out 1st rd. the key is getting the odds to make it a worthwhile bet.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:55 AM   #22
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I do bet and do really well. It's probably because I understand betting and betting lines better than just about everyone. It's why I consistently make $ year after year.

I firmly believe uk could go out 1st rd. the key is getting the odds to make it a worthwhile bet.
Thats not what you said though. You said with certainty, they would lose.

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Thats not what you said though. You said with certainty, they would lose.

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Just because I think they will lose does not make it a good bet. I never said I was betting on them to lose.

Plus, I think your retort was quite silly. The season has not started yet and we don't even know if they make the tourney.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:20 AM   #24
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Just because I think they will lose does not make it a good bet. I never said I was betting on them to lose.

Plus, I think your retort was quite silly. The season has not started yet and we don't even know if they make the tourney.
How was my response silly as a hypothetical if your initial comment was based on them making the tourney as well?

What I am getting at is not whether you would make a bet, but rather why you make a 100% absolute statement like that. Either back it up or stop making those laughable absolutes.
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How was my response silly as a hypothetical if your initial comment was based on them making the tourney as well?

What I am getting at is not whether you would make a bet, but rather why you make a 100% absolute statement like that. Either back it up or stop making those laughable absolutes.
Sure I will be it if the odds are right! What is so hard for u to understand.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:44 PM   #26
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Sure I will be it if the odds are right! What is so hard for u to understand.
You're backtracking, based on your initial statement, it wouldn't matter.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #27
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You're backtracking, based on your initial statement, it wouldn't matter.
Thank you for proving you lack the basic understanding of
Betting. I could explain it to you but doubt you will be able to grasp it.
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lol. You can't read at all, I was saying since you think it is a 100% certainty, why would the odds matter. DUCY?

Lay me 4:1, that should be a deal on a 100% lock.
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lol. You can't read at all, I was saying since you think it is a 100% certainty, why would the odds matter. DUCY?

Lay me 4:1, that should be a deal on a 100% lock.
Oh now I get it (eye roll).

4:1? So you are saying uk will lose in the 1st rd once every 4 years.

I think you need to grasp the concept of a good bet, which u seem incapable of doing.
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Oh now I get it (eye roll).

4:1? So you are saying uk will lose in the 1st rd once every 4 years.

I think you need to grasp the concept of a good bet, which u seem incapable of doing.
No, I'm saying you lay me 4:1 on UK losing the 1st round. How is that not a good bet if you said it was a 100% lock?
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No, I'm saying you lay me 4:1 on UK losing the 1st round. How is that not a good bet if you said it was a 100% lock?
Sure now it's time to put up. I'm willing to lay $5,000,000 US which means you need $20MM. When you have that liquid and held where betting is legal, private message me and I'll give you the offshore escrow acct. They will hold the $ and draw up the terms and conditions. If you have a different well known foreign law firm preference I am negotiable but it will require my due diligence. obviously I will need to see proof of funds prior to putting in any more time.
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Sure now it's time to put up. I'm willing to lay $5,000,000 US which means you need $20MM. When you have that liquid and held where betting is legal, private message me and I'll give you the offshore escrow acct. They will hold the $ and draw up the terms and conditions. If you have a different well known foreign law firm preference I am negotiable but it will require my due diligence. obviously I will need to see proof of funds prior to putting in any more time.
You are giving me 4:1 on this bet. You're saying UK loses 80% of the time in this bet, which is a good deal considering you believe it is 100%. You wanted the 'UK losing' side of this bet.

Unfortunately, I'm not that deep, and while I'd be willing to bet a decent amount, I'd rather not deal with an escrow for a simple bet since I don't know you. If I win & you don't pay, it's not a big deal.

I'll put up $50 to your $200, or we can do a signature bet for your choice on mine for 10 days, or my choice for 40 days.

Beyond this, I'm done with the derail, so don't troll further with outrageous amounts of money. I'm happy you're so deep, please put it towards our athletic programs rather than trolling this forum.

PM me if you want to enter the bet.
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I suggest you keep checking your pm incessantly.
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CBS (Goodman and Parrish) are indirectly weighing in on this debate (not Tupacs debate though).

They recently listed their top 50 point guards and their top 50 big men.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20656491
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20643571

They've got Harrow as the 19th best PG and don't list Wilkebin
They've got Noel 3rd, Poythress 14th, Wiltjer 44th - Young 19th, Murphy 28th

Greg Doyell tweeted that he thinks Young is "very underrated" at 19 and I know from listening to Goodman over the last year that he thinks Murphy should be higher as well.

Obviously I'm not suggesting the cbs guys as anything close to a definitive source. Just figured it was somewhat relatable to this thread.
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CBS (Goodman and Parrish) are indirectly weighing in on this debate (not Tupacs debate though).

They recently listed their top 50 point guards and their top 50 big men.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20656491
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20643571

They've got Harrow as the 19th best PG and don't list Wilkebin
They've got Noel 3rd, Poythress 14th, Wiltjer 44th - Young 19th, Murphy 28th

Greg Doyell tweeted that he thinks Young is "very underrated" at 19 and I know from listening to Goodman over the last year that he thinks Murphy should be higher as well.

Obviously I'm not suggesting the cbs guys as anything close to a definitive source. Just figured it was somewhat relatable to this thread.
Citing CBS as a source is Pathetic.

Second player ranks have no bearing on a team.

I doubt lee Humphrey was considered a top 50 guard but he was the #1 sg our team could have had that yr.

I will also say their ranks are woeful and I didn't even look at them. Why? As a former CBS employee I know why those guys still have a job there. They are cheap labor.
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I think that they seriously underestimate Eric Murphy. He does most everything very well except rebound. And if that becomes an emphasis his help-D will suffer and his blocks will go way down.

Whatever "3" we put on the floor has to fill Beal's rebounding stat more than anything else. I figure that we will have enough scoring on the floor to fill that hole left by Brad by committee. His defensive rebounding was really astounding especially for a freshman that wasn't playing in the paint. It was a joy to watch.
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I have no problem with your analysis except that Coach Cal is 7-1 versus Donovan. Edge to Coach Cal.
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CBS (Goodman and Parrish) are indirectly weighing in on this debate (not Tupacs debate though).

They recently listed their top 50 point guards and their top 50 big men.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20656491
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...story/20643571

They've got Harrow as the 19th best PG and don't list Wilkebin
They've got Noel 3rd, Poythress 14th, Wiltjer 44th - Young 19th, Murphy 28th

Greg Doyell tweeted that he thinks Young is "very underrated" at 19 and I know from listening to Goodman over the last year that he thinks Murphy should be higher as well.

Obviously I'm not suggesting the cbs guys as anything close to a definitive source. Just figured it was somewhat relatable to this thread.
Well, of course Wilbekin isn't going to be in any preseason rankings. He was a virtual unknown coming out of high school unlike Harrow, and he's been a backup point guard for the first two years of his career. Aaron Craft sure is getting a ton of hype, and I think Wilbekin has the potential to be just as good as or better than Craft.
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