What an unbelievably incompetent call in wildcard game

[Spurffelbow833]

Unfreakin' believable. And shut up with the sanctimony, announcers. The fan response was completely appropriate. Thank them for not rioting.

[AzCatFan]

One has to wonder if the MLB hired the NFL replacement refs to work the game. One of the worst calls ever.

[keefer]

Didn't watch. Please 'splain................

[DoubleDown11]

One of the worst calls I've ever seen, but it doesn't change the fact that the Braves wouldn't even be in this position if they weren't throwing the ball all over the field.

[Potzer01]

It's true it was awful, the fan response was fairly appropriate given the lack of replay, reviews or compentancy on the umps part.

Yet another case for replay.

Tbh I would enjoy the game more with electronic balls and strikes to

[tideh8rGator]

I agree the call was stupid.

The Braves need some experienced postseason players whose bats will not go dead in October. Same problem for the last 20 years except for 1995.

[GatorBen]

Originally Posted by keefer

Didn't watch. Please 'splain................

The ball fell between the short stop and the outfielder in the outfield with one out and Braves on first and second (and the score 6-3 St. Louis). The extra left field line ump called a very late infield fly rule on what didn't look to be a ball catchable by the infielder with normal effort to register the second out.

The game is being played under protest now and the Braves fans showered the field with garbage.

[Spurffelbow833]

Kinda makes you wonder if they're better off with four umpires in the postseason. I don't care if St. Louis won by 3 runs. The whole game changed. We'll never know what should have happened.

They correctly called Simmons out for running inside the base line earlier, but still if you were a fan, you thought the Braves got the lead back and then, nope. That plus the errors and the infield fly rule call, and this is without a doubt the most nightmarish last game for a Hall of Fame player ever. If I were at the game, it would be my worst experience as a fan. 100% suck after Ross's home run. Thank God I wasn't there.

I hate the Cardinals. Every time the Braves play them in the postseason, irritating crap happens.

[Spurffelbow833]

Originally Posted by Potzer01

Tbh I would enjoy the game more with electronic balls and strikes to

That'll never happen. It would force pitchers to throw a strike when the count is 0-2 or 1-2.

[GatorBen]

ESPN says MLB expects to rule on the Braves' protest later tonight.

[keefer]

Wow. Sounds like they need to get the feds involved in regards to that umpire.

[superman2318]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

ESPN says MLB expects to rule on the Braves' protest later tonight.

As bad as the call was, i have a very hard time thinking they make any kind of change. Not only was the OF going to have to make the Play or a heck of a catch by the SS, but he call the IFR about a second before the ball landed, Not at the peak where its normally called, and WAY deeper in the OF. But they will stick by their guys, just like with the NFL and the Packers call.

[Spurffelbow833]

The Cardinals can make the claim that Kozma gave up on the play when he heard the call. It would be just as unfair to them to reverse the call. Just a complete SNAFU by the umpires.

[GatorBen]

Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

The Cardinals can make the claim that Kozma gave up on the play when he heard the call. It would be just as unfair to them to reverse the call. Just a complete SNAFU by the umpires.

I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that that's a terribly believable claim for them to make. Why would you give up and let the runners advance just because you were getting the second out for free.

[Spurffelbow833]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that that's a terribly believable claim for them to make. Why would you give up and let the runners advance just because you were getting the second out for free.

Maybe because the outfielder was in a better position to make the throw. The umpire confused everybody. Nobody knew what to do once he made the inappropriate call.

[outbackjack]

I know this is a Gators football board, and if you need to delete, please do.

However, I wanted to see what sportsfans think, and I didn't know which board to post on.

Granted, the Braves lost by having crucial errors and not scoring runners late in scoring position, BUT were also robbed by the worst call I've ever seen.

Here's my biggest problem with it.

1. The infield fly call is made when someone who starts the play on the infield, is under a fly ball with routine effort (i.e.camped). This ball was 70 feet into the outfield, and the SS NEVER EVEN REACHED the point to where the ball would eventually land.

2. Infield flys are called immediately by the ump, thus to alert baserunners. This was called by the ump when the ball was sinking fast, just an instant before it hit the ground.

3. Infield fly should be called by the third base ump, not the LF ump.

4. It is 100% clear the ump doesn't raise his fist UNTIL the short stop has peeled off.

5. The rule is in place to prevent fielders from dropping a ball, then doubling off the runners. CLEARLY, when this dropped in left, the runners EASILY advanced, standing, into the next base. And it was Uggla and Ross, not Tim Raines and Rickey Henderson.

A HUGE moment in the game. The ex-umps on TV are saying the company line (correct call), but they are just protecting their own.

My favorite is the line where the umps in the game all agree with the call. Really?

THEN WHY DIDN'T THE THIRD BASE UMP EVER MAKE THE CALL, since it was his call, if he agreed with it.

Lifelong Braves fan, very, very tough pill to swallow.

Go get em tomorrow Gators. Do it for Darin Ross and Chipper Jones.

[Juggernautz]

The Braves were robbed!

[AzCatFan]

Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

The Cardinals can make the claim that Kozma gave up on the play when he heard the call. It would be just as unfair to them to reverse the call. Just a complete SNAFU by the umpires.

The thing is, players are told to complete the catch, no matter what the umpire calls. First, you never are sure the ump will make the call. Second, catch the ball and the chance of the runners advancing is minute. Let it drop...well, you see what can happen.

The umpire royally screwed up and changed the game. And I doubt MLB does anything. That would be unfair to the Cardinals at this point. They would have to stay in Atl and have their closer throw yet another inning or more. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

What MLB should do is join the 21st century, especially for playoff games. Allow for more replays. Have an official either on hand or on stanby to decide an outcome of a protest. Give them a 5 minute window to decide. Half innings are usually a couple minutes anyway.

There is no reason, in today's world, that bad calls need to stand. High def replays from multiple angles are instantly available around the world. Utilize the technology and get it right.

[gotime51]

it was total bs. in a game of this significance, let the play go without getting involved

[Wuerffel5220]

Not an infield fly