10-10-2012, 12:12 PM
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I think Scottie at the point makes most sense. After the way everything 'clicked' for Prather at the end of last year, I'd like to see him starting at the 3. The comment from earlier about his time coming at the 4 does give me a little pause, but if he showed the talent this offseason that he showed at the end of last year, that's his spot. Yeguete being the 6th man. Put me in the camp of not sold on Rosario yet.
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10-10-2012, 12:52 PM
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Most of this position dicsussion is laughable. Most of BD's teams since the championship years had so many interchangable parts, that it was not possible to label individual players a specific position.
Sounds more like a lot of chest-beating. "Look how smart I am since I know so much".
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10-10-2012, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grant1
Most of this position dicsussion is laughable. Most of BD's teams since the championship years had so many interchangable parts, that it was not possible to label individual players a specific position.
Sounds more like a lot of chest-beating. "Look how smart I am since I know so much".
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THIS!
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10-10-2012, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grant1
Most of this position dicsussion is laughable. Most of BD's teams since the championship years had so many interchangable parts, that it was not possible to label individual players a specific position.
Sounds more like a lot of chest-beating. "Look how smart I am since I know so much".
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Or it could just a discussion about the team, such as we have lacked for, oh, the last six months.
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10-10-2012, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrangeGator
This makes the most sense to me…
1 - Wilbekin, Boynton
2 - Boynton, Rosario
3 - Rosario, Prather
4 - Murphy, Yeguette
5 - Young, Larson
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With a minutes distribution something like:
PG: Wilbekin [25 min], Boynton [10 min], Ogbueze [5 min]
SG: Boyton [20 min], Rosario[10 min], Frazier [5 min], Graham [5 min]
SF: Prather [21 min], Rosario [14 min], D.Walker [5 min]
PF: Murphy [14 min], Yegette [24 min], Prather [2 min]
C: Young [24], Murphy [10], Larson [6]
This could be early season minutes with the guards playing more minutes and the Frosh less in SEC season and possibly one Frosh earning most of the Frosh minutes if someone steps forward.
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10-10-2012, 05:54 PM
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So what happens with foul trouble? Injuries? Other issues?
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10-10-2012, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tupacbiff
So what happens with foul trouble? Injuries? Other issues?
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My guess is that rather than play 4 on 5 or 3 on 5, in case of foul trouble or injury Donovan will adjust the minutes increasing minutes for those who are not in are not in foul trouble or injured and decrease minutes for those who are in foul trouble or injured. But then that is just my guess.
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10-11-2012, 01:25 AM
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I don't see Billy going 12 deep.
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10-11-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
My guess is that rather than play 4 on 5 or 3 on 5, in case of foul trouble or injury Donovan will adjust the minutes increasing minutes for those who are not in are not in foul trouble or injured and decrease minutes for those who are in foul trouble or injured. But then that is just my guess.
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Thanks for proving my point.
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10-11-2012, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahab
I don't see Billy going 12 deep.
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We always look like we can go 12 deep this time of year. I'm guessing we'll end up eight or nine deep. Not sure who will provide the most bench minutes beyond Rosario and Yeguette. Hopefully Larson.
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10-11-2012, 05:29 PM
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Starting five is over-rated. Which 5 will be on the floor in a close game with a minute to go and a lead? And which 5 with a deficit? And what are the O vs D switches? This matters a lot more.
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10-11-2012, 06:25 PM
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Walker isn't going to see much run if any. Neither will Dillon IMO but we will see. It's not that Dillon isn't a good player, he is, I just think that we are so deep in the back-court that it may take a year.t
Can you see him playing significant minutes ahead of Boynton/Rosario/Wilbekin/Braxton/Frazier/Prather/Yeguete? I cant. That's 120 minutes between 7 guys...Don't see it for Dillon or Walker. I think we'll be more like 9 deep on given night.
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10-11-2012, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grant1
Most of this position dicsussion is laughable. Most of BD's teams since the championship years had so many interchangable parts, that it was not possible to label individual players a specific position.
Sounds more like a lot of chest-beating. "Look how smart I am since I know so much".
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Jesus. We're just discussing possible starting lineups. Thanks for contributing.
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10-12-2012, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorPlanet
Jesus. We're just discussing possible starting lineups. Thanks for contributing.
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You're welcome. You know me, I like to "tweak" the conversation.
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10-12-2012, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatordd
Walker isn't going to see much run if any. Neither will Dillon IMO but we will see. It's not that Dillon isn't a good player, he is, I just think that we are so deep in the back-court that it may take a year.t
Can you see him playing significant minutes ahead of Boynton/Rosario/Wilbekin/Braxton/Frazier/Prather/Yeguete? I cant. That's 120 minutes between 7 guys...Don't see it for Dillon or Walker. I think we'll be more like 9 deep on given night.
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I am not sure how anyone can pick among Frazier, Graham, Ogbueze and D.Walker as to playing time. In terms of position there is less depth at PG and SF than SG so that would suggest Ogbueze and D.Walker are more likely to get more minutes than Frazier or Graham.
As far as Frazier or Graham, I do not see how anyone can have any basis for saying Frazier will play and Graham wont. They are two blanks slates. Neither had the kind of recruiting ranking that will command minutes. Both are playing behind two very experienced SR SGs.
So as I said in my first post in this thread, Wilbekin, Boynton, Rosario, Prather, Yeguete, Murphy and Young will command the lions share of the minutes this year. If everyone plays 25ish minute with Boynton playing 5 extra minutes, then you have taken up 180 out of 200 minutes. That leaves some minutes for Larson and whoever among the Frosh can earn minutes.
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10-12-2012, 06:34 PM
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Apparently, BD hinted at media days this week that Scottie gets the first crack at starting point guard.
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10-12-2012, 07:20 PM
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Good point Insti, although Ogbuze and Frazier may have something of an edge regarding minutes, but as you noted, with Boynton and Rosario in front of Frazier, there ain't much time there, while Ogbuze looks to me like he should get 10-15 minutes per game (unless some other PG steps up). Wilbekin will likely play other positions during games, if for no other reason than his defensive prowess, and I don't know that there is anyone else to play point, well, I guess Boynton could - we might well see Boynton point, Rosario two, Wilbekin three.
Every season is interesting.
For me, one big question is: "Can these Gators beat Tennessee in Knoxville (the only contest between these two arch rivals)?"
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10-12-2012, 10:10 PM
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Wilby
Boynton
Prather
Murphy
Young
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10-13-2012, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops
Wilby
Boynton
Prather
Murphy
Young
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The small forward is the wild card. Prather and Rosario will be the guys battling it out, and they each bring very different skills to the table. My guess is that Rosario wins it, but if Prather makes a BIG jump, he'll get the job.
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10-13-2012, 09:45 AM
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I see Ogbueze getting minutes at the point and then which ever freshman is the best shooter out of Frazier, Graham or Walker. Think we'll need one of them in the rotation to help spread the floor.
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