09-01-2012, 08:32 AM
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I do remember the Appledorf murder, Insti. Weird, surreal affair.
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09-01-2012, 10:19 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by jmac83
I do remember the Appledorf murder, Insti. Weird, surreal affair.
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Not Appledorf's murder, but by reputation when I was a grad student he taught some class in a huge auditorium each semester and at the beginning of the semester announced to the class that the university had once again put so many students in that course that he could not grade it and he would have to assign everyone an A. Naturally this made it a very popular class and I bet many athletes heard about this and took that class. And he taught this class year in and year out for years. Was the UF athletic department somehow responsible for this situation. Should the University of Florida been sanctioned for his class? Does the University of Florida let the NCAA make a judgement about any class at UF?
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09-01-2012, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
Actually UGa was found to have provided improper benefits to a player. A wire transfer of $300 was what kicked off that investigation. In addition a member of the athletic department, ie Harrick's son who was covered by NCAA rules, was found to have given away grades in a class to athletes. And there were other violations.
Is it really surprising to you that the NCAA does have some ability to sanction a school based on classes taught by a coach but no ability to sanction a school base on classes taught by any other professor or instructor?
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I apologize for my attempt to be funny, I will try to avoid doing that in the future
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09-01-2012, 12:50 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by philnotfil
I apologize for my attempt to be funny, I will try to avoid doing that in the future 
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I thought your post was intended both to be funny/ironic and to raise a serious case that could be argued on the other side. I merely pointed out that it was different from UNC in important ways.
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09-10-2012, 12:16 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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The more I read, the sicker I become.
UConn and UK will keep taking whatever they like.
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09-12-2012, 03:19 PM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
Not Appledorf's murder, but by reputation when I was a grad student he taught some class in a huge auditorium each semester and at the beginning of the semester announced to the class that the university had once again put so many students in that course that he could not grade it and he would have to assign everyone an A. Naturally this made it a very popular class and I bet many athletes heard about this and took that class. And he taught this class year in and year out for years. Was the UF athletic department somehow responsible for this situation. Should the University of Florida been sanctioned for his class? Does the University of Florida let the NCAA make a judgement about any class at UF?
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Please tell me that your understanding of UNC's academic scandal doesn't make you think Appledorf's situation is actually a good comparison.
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09-12-2012, 03:30 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Here's a good example of why I don't understand how the NCAA can't oversee college academic matters:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...-cassells-kid-
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Here's the situation: Davis and Cassell both had classes they took in the 2011-12 school year invalidated by the NCAA largely because the NCAA put the Fitchburg, Mass., school on the "Watch List." By the time Davis was notified by the NCAA that the school was under review, which Davis' father told CBSSports.com was last winter, it was too late to take any other classes to replace the ones invalidated by the NCAA because Davis was already in his fifth year.
"I can't figure it all out," said Sam Davis, Myles' father. "It doesn't make any sense."
"When the classes were taken," he added. "Notre Dame Prep wasn't on any list. It's just not fair."
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Davis wasn't just ruled ineligible to play, either. According to the NCAA, he isn't allowed to practice with the team or receive aid -- unlike the ruling the NCAA gave Providence freshman Ricky Ledo, who attended four schools -- one of which was Notre Dame Prep.
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The NCAA has certainly stepped up its efforts to police some of the questionable prep schools throughout the country. That's why Rodney Purvis remains in limbo right now and why Notre Dame Prep is among many schools under an NCAA microscope.
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I'm all for policing prep schools if the NCAA is going to stick their nose into these kind of things. However, how can they POSSIBLY do this kind of integrity based investigation into a HIGH SCHOOL, but not think that a freaking university is anything they can be concerned with.
In other words: "We diligently attempt to decipher who is worthy of being enrolled in a college or university. I mean, we can't have a player with a fraudulent high school education enrolling in one of OUR universities!!! However, its none of our concern if one of OUR OWN universities is providing a fraudulent education on their own accord!"
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