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Old 04-19-2012, 01:45 AM   #1
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Interesting read on some of the things Dream's been kind of hitting at the last few days. I can see how a lot of this stuff could be concerning. Worth a look if you've got five minutes.

Link: Are most people in denial about their weight?
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Decent article and I know I have seen it first hand. The part at the end about seeming normal by comparison to other overweight people in particular is what I have noticed. And that is not even getting into some of the outfits I see people wearing that are not one bit body appropriate.

This all makes total sense. People overestimate how active they are and underestimate how much they eat so it only makes sense that they would come to the conclusion that they are not nearly as overweight as they really are.
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Thomas -

That was a fascinating article. I think it's absolutely the case that Americans in particular are fatter than they think. It may have to do with the way we're wired. But I'm inclined to attribute some of it to the mere fact that, in America, fat is the new normal.

Seriously, there is very little incentive to lose weight in America because even if you're overweight, you're bound to know people who are heavier than you are. And no matter how fat you get there's always My 600-Pound Life on TV to make you feel better about your shape.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #4
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Dream, I gotta admit you've at least made me think twice about a few things in the last couple days.

I got drunk the other day and had a few snacks late at night. Looked at the calories the next day and I had eaten about 1,500 calories before I went to bed. So yeah, I'm gonna start watching my diet a little more closely.
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Dream, I gotta admit you've at least made me think twice about a few things in the last couple days.

I got drunk the other day and had a few snacks late at night. Looked at the calories the next day and I had eaten about 1,500 calories before I went to bed. So yeah, I'm gonna start watching my diet a little more closely.
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Alcohol by itself is not very bad. But drunk munchies can add up on you really quick.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:36 AM   #7
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I've switched over to liquor more after drinking nothing but beer the past three years or so. Not sure if that'll mean much of a difference in calories.
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I've switched to mostly vodka or good beers. I figure I get drunk on fewer calories this way.
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It's true that on a per-ounce basis most liquor doesn't contain a lot of calories. But allow me to relate this little anecdote:

A client of mine invited my wife and myself to a reception recently. He announced that he was "being good" because all he was having was wine and hors d'oeuvres.

As I was not there to monitor him that night - he's a big boy - I estimated that he had 500 calories of wine, never mind the munchies. That was two large glasses, amounting to two servings each, and later a small complimentary cup, accounting for another serving.
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Well for me, it's really simple calories-wise. I can drink beer all day and be fine. It'll take me six beers to start to feel a buzz. I can make a 50-50 Jack and Coke or Crown and Coke in a scotch glass and be buzzed.

For whatever reason, my system just reacts completely differently to liquor than beer.
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Well for me, it's really simple calories-wise. I can drink beer all day and be fine. It'll take me six beers to start to feel a buzz. I can make a 50-50 Jack and Coke or Crown and Coke in a scotch glass and be buzzed.

For whatever reason, my system just reacts completely differently to liquor than beer.
How interesting. I need to find me a concoction I can have six of without getting drunk. I know it's out there.
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Whenever i get drunk i eat way too much food


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I've switched over to liquor more after drinking nothing but beer the past three years or so. Not sure if that'll mean much of a difference in calories.
I did that, too, and the only thing it meant was I got completely overserved.

I don't mix with Coke anymore. Generally I go with a high premium rum or bourbon on the rocks with splash of club soda. I can't really drink vodka.
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Oddly enough, alcohol is one of my diet secrets. If I have a nightcap either neat or with diet coke I don't snack at all. Not sure why, but it works.
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Oddly enough, alcohol is one of my diet secrets. If I have a nightcap either neat or with diet coke I don't snack at all. Not sure why, but it works.
Some argue that alcohol has a higher thermic effect than most foods, whatever that's worth.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #17
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Interesting. In all reality it's likely just psychological with me. It tastes like a "treat" and I have something to sip that I enjoy so I don't attempt to fill the "treat" desire with popcorn or something.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:24 PM   #18
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Interesting. In all reality it's likely just psychological with me. It tastes like a "treat" and I have something to sip that I enjoy so I don't attempt to fill the "treat" desire with popcorn or something.
You're probably right. Alcohol and coffee are liquids that, in a pinch, can suffice for a meal for me. Coffee is my breakfast these days. And if I'm trying to lose a few, wine is dessert.
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I did that, too, and the only thing it meant was I got completely overserved.

I don't mix with Coke anymore. Generally I go with a high premium rum or bourbon on the rocks with splash of club soda. I can't really drink vodka.
I typically don't drink liquor when I go out, try to stick to beer at bars.

But if I'm kicking back and having a drink or two at home, I'm more likely to go with liquor now than I used to.
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It's psychological for me as well. Or sometimes, I feel like I'm overreacting over my weight too.
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