What are you still doing cardio ?

[ThomasGoldkamp]

Originally Posted by LeafUF

That is unfortunately not going to work as it's not a 1 to 1 relationship. Running for 30 minutes a day is the equivalent of 3 light beers and 1.5 or fewer good beers. So you really do not have the time to burn off enough calories through exercise to enjoy food and beer without tweaking your diet at some point.

On the other hand you can tweak your diet in ways that allow you to eat and drink the things you like without gaining weight. Its just a matter of finding the right energy balance.

Meh, it's working for now. I'll adjust when I need to.

[ryanhoward812]

Dream I do both. I usually run anywhere from 4-6 miles in the morning and then hit the weights in the evening at the Gym. I get what your saying about running but I actually love the high I get from running. I do a couple runs a year but I must say that you dont have to diet quite as much when you run and lift...but I run mainly because its enjoyable and I compete at it.

[Dreamliner]

Exactly, I think that "I exercise so I can eat more" is a risky strategy.

Besides, why do we have to eat a lot ? Is our gratification really tied to being able to eat a particular amount of food ?

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ryanhoward812

Dream I do both. I usually run anywhere from 4-6 miles in the morning and then hit the weights in the evening at the Gym. I get what your saying about running but I actually love the high I get from running. I do a couple runs a year but I must say that you dont have to diet quite as much when you run and lift...but I run mainly because its enjoyable and I compete at it.

There you go. I get the 'high' part.

[rburnett]

Originally Posted by ThomasGoldkamp

I probably could since I used to work there and could get people to sneak me in. But I wouldn't want to ask anyone to do something they're not supposed to do on account of me. I'm a bad influence in many ways I'm sure, but getting you in trouble at work ain't one of 'em...

Find person that looks similar to you, pay the 10-20$ for a new gator1 for them... bingo

[ThomasGoldkamp]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Exactly, I think that "I exercise so I can eat more" is a risky strategy.

Besides, why do we have to eat a lot ? Is our gratification really tied to being able to eat a particular amount of food ?

If I get hungry, I want to eat. It's that simple for me. I don't want to get hungry and have to tell myself "nope, really shouldn't eat right now even though I'm hungry because I'm on a diet."

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ThomasGoldkamp

If I get hungry, I want to eat. It's that simple for me. I don't want to get hungry and have to tell myself "nope, really shouldn't eat right now even though I'm hungry because I'm on a diet."

Thomas, you're certainly worth your salt as a reporter. You've just uncovered the reason why we're the fattest major nation on earth. When we get hungry ... we eat something.

Film at eleven.

[ThomasGoldkamp]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Thomas, you're certainly worth your salt as a reporter. You've just uncovered the reason why we're the fattest major nation on earth. When we get hungry ... we eat something.

Film at eleven.

I'm not fat, so I can get away with it...

I probably fall between the ectomorph and mesomorph body type, if that helps.

[oI2ange]

I've got an extreme eating problem at times. I binge eat quite a bit during football season, sometimes consuming up to 4-5k calories a day. I don't understand why I quite enjoy eating so much...it's quite annoying. I'm pretty good during the week; but once I go out on weekends, it all just goes to hell.

I'm thankful that I haven't really gained much weight the last few years...my workouts are frequent and intense enough to keep it off for now. Once I get older, however, I'm probably going to have to cut down (I'm hoping that just comes with the natural aging process though).

I have a real self control problem lol...not really sure how to attack it either. The obvious answer is just to 'stop eating so much', but I can't actually seem to do this...

[ATL_Gator]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Exactly, I think that "I exercise so I can eat more" is a risky strategy.

Besides, why do we have to eat a lot ? Is our gratification really tied to being able to eat a particular amount of food ?

This is one of probably two parts of your stance on exercise and weight management that I don't agree with.

For me... yes, I exercise so I can eat more, espeically of food that I love. I also do other things to allow me to eat more of the food that I really want.

For example. What is better, eating eating 1 slice of pizza, or eating 5 slices of pizza? The taste is phenomenal, and I get to enjoy the direct taste of it easily 5x longer if for no other reason than volume alone.

How does one maintain or even lose weight when employing such eating strategies... budgeting. Budget the calories out such that over a period of time you are at a "target" intake. How can you budget... exercise and what you eat in the other times/days.

Which leads me to the second part that I don't agree with, which was also discussed in this thread. The primary reason for exercise and/or cardio is not always weight related. I do cardio because the gains in endurance I get from it translates VERY well to other movement activities. The fact that it burns additional calories and aids in weight management is a benefit, but not the reason it is done.

[15gator05]

Originally Posted by ThomasGoldkamp

I'm not fat, so I can get away with it...

I probably fall between the ectomorph and mesomorph body type, if that helps.

How do you tell what body type you fall under? Lol Im 6'1" 180-185.

[LeafUF]

Originally Posted by 15gator05

How do you tell what body type you fall under? Lol Im 6'1" 180-185.

Pick one.

[15gator05]

Originally Posted by LeafUF

Pick one.

Well not the last one. Lol

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by oI2ange

I've got an extreme eating problem at times. I binge eat quite a bit during football season, sometimes consuming up to 4-5k calories a day. I don't understand why I quite enjoy eating so much...it's quite annoying. I'm pretty good during the week; but once I go out on weekends, it all just goes to hell.

I'm thankful that I haven't really gained much weight the last few years...my workouts are frequent and intense enough to keep it off for now. Once I get older, however, I'm probably going to have to cut down (I'm hoping that just comes with the natural aging process though).

I have a real self control problem lol...not really sure how to attack it either. The obvious answer is just to 'stop eating so much', but I can't actually seem to do this...

Hey, just imagine that willpower doesn't exist and imagine a better future. Do you have to summon extreme willpower to go to work every day ? I didn't think so.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ATL_Gator

This is one of probably two parts of your stance on exercise and weight management that I don't agree with.

For me... yes, I exercise so I can eat more, espeically of food that I love. I also do other things to allow me to eat more of the food that I really want.

For example. What is better, eating eating 1 slice of pizza, or eating 5 slices of pizza? The taste is phenomenal, and I get to enjoy the direct taste of it easily 5x longer if for no other reason than volume alone.

How does one maintain or even lose weight when employing such eating strategies... budgeting. Budget the calories out such that over a period of time you are at a "target" intake. How can you budget... exercise and what you eat in the other times/days.

Which leads me to the second part that I don't agree with, which was also discussed in this thread. The primary reason for exercise and/or cardio is not always weight related. I do cardio because the gains in endurance I get from it translates VERY well to other movement activities. The fact that it burns additional calories and aids in weight management is a benefit, but not the reason it is done.

I don't see where we disagree ... unless I've misunderstood you. What tastes better, the first slice or the fifth slice ? Secondly, since exercise is a relatively poor weight-control strategy, just do it for its documented health benefits and learn to savor smaller amounts of food.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by LeafUF

Pick one.

I'm the one to the left of Ectomorph.

[Gatormb]

Originally Posted by 15gator05

Haha well I read your fitness lies thread so ill be straight up with you that I run three miles a day in less than 18 minutes before I do a workout.

Hah, I can ride my bike 3 miles in less than 17 minutes and be at Hungry Howie's for some.......err......salad!

[15gator05]

Originally Posted by Gatormb

Hah, I can ride my bike 3 miles in less than 17 minutes and be at Hungry Howie's for some.......err......salad!

Run three miles a day for close to five years and I bet youll get pretty damn close.

[Dreamliner]

I've lived in my Orlando neighborhood for ten years now. For ten years, almost weekly, I've seen the same lady jog in front of my house.

She appears to get heavier every year.

I regard it as a metaphor for how well exercising to eat more works over the long-haul.

[ATL_Gator]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

I don't see where we disagree ... unless I've misunderstood you. What tastes better, the first slice or the fifth slice ? Secondly, since exercise is a relatively poor weight-control strategy, just do it for its documented health benefits and learn to savor smaller amounts of food.

Neither

Both tastes equally delicious.