You May Be Shooting Yourself In The Foot If ...

[Dreamliner]

You're wanting to lose weight and you're drinking a protein shake after your workout. You need fewer calories. The shake has calories. You don't need as much protein as you think the build, let alone maintain muscle.

You're thinking of switching to bodyweight exercises because you think they're safer than using weights. They are certainly more convenient. They are certainly more challenging in a way. But you still have to be careful. I've jacked myself up pretty good doing certain bodyweight exercises. And this is coming from a bodyweight exercise enthusiast.

You think you can lose weight by shaving 500 calories off what you're currently eating. But what if you're already eating more than you need ? Isn't that why you need to lose weight ?

You've been wanting to lose weight, and you recently went through a period where you were stressed out for a period, got off your normal meal schedule ... and were alarmed to discover you'd lost a bunch of weight BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PART OF A CONSCIOUS WEIGHT-LOSS STRATEGY. There was a lesson in that!

You're chasing a calorie burn. You're exercising furiously and daily because you think it's an effective means of losing weight and keeping it off. You may be headed for a trap! The eating side of the equation is MUCH more important than the exercising side.

You're embarking on an exercise program without having someone check out your movement patterns. Bringing squirrely movement patterns and muscle imbalances into a vigorous fitness regimen may amount to 'piling fitness on top of dysfunction', as one movement specialist puts it. You're a walking prescription for disaster.

You think you have to exercise a lot. Unless you're an Olympic athlete, no, you do not have to work out a lot. In fact, depending on your lifestyle, you may not have to work out at all.

You think you're special. Well, of course you're special. What I mean is that you think you're immune to the Law of Thermodynamics and that, say, calorie counting doesn't work for you, etc.

You say you're counting your calories and you're working out and you're not losing weight but take offense at the suggestion that you're underestimating the calories you need and overestimating the calories you burn.

You think that a workout is unproductive if you can't see the hair growing on your chest and feel your testicles swelling while you're doing it.

[Dreamliner]

Oh, and try to imagine a Jeff Foxworthy voice here.

[chrisleakfan4life]

If i have a protein shake after a work out its 170 calories and 20g of protein and the calories are apart of my calorie count for the day

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[deviation]

Have to disagree with you about the protein shake and losing weight. Granted you are right that more cals = more weight but any smart person will add their protein drink to their macros if they are serious about their weight loss. In a sense protein drinks can help aid in fat loss.

I've been on a cut for 3 weeks now and i take myofusion after my workout and before bed. It has CLA in it, not high in carbs, tastes amazing and decent amount of protein in there.

I also take Elite Gourmet sometimes after my workouts, that is also low on carbs and tastes great. Not as good as myofusion.

Now i do use water instead of milk, that is very important. During my cutting phase, i've been gaining strength and losing fat. It's been going great. 8% bf here i come.

[kalaniocc]

my protein shake is 106 calories, 24g of protein.

[deviation]

Originally Posted by kalaniocc

my protein shake is 106 calories, 24g of protein.

Carbs?
Sodium?
Sugar?

Also things you should be looking at. But yeah, 100 cals isn't anything to be worried about. That is easy to add in to your diet.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by deviation

Have to disagree with you about the protein shake and losing weight. Granted you are right that more cals = more weight but any smart person will add their protein drink to their macros if they are serious about their weight loss. In a sense protein drinks can help aid in fat loss.

I've been on a cut for 3 weeks now and i take myofusion after my workout and before bed. It has CLA in it, not high in carbs, tastes amazing and decent amount of protein in there.

I also take Elite Gourmet sometimes after my workouts, that is also low on carbs and tastes great. Not as good as myofusion.

Now i do use water instead of milk, that is very important. During my cutting phase, i've been gaining strength and losing fat. It's been going great. 8% bf here i come.

I think there is a confusion of categories here. Protein MAY afford greater satiety. It does not cause fat loss. That's where your calorie deficit comes in. Now, if that's all you're saying, then I agree with you. However, whereas protein shakes can contribute to protein synthesis, there is actually little or no evidence that protein synthesis causes muscle growth. Finally, muscle tissue itself is not merely as metabolically active as was previously supposed. One recent study has a pound of muscle burning as few as six calories.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by chrisleakfan4life

If i have a protein shake after a work out its 170 calories and 20g of protein and the calories are apart of my calorie count for the day

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Yep, you've always been good about counting that in. Believe it or not, certain leading lights in the industry have actually suggested that post-workout nutrition doesn't count, as if the nutrition is just magically sopped up by the muscles.

[kalaniocc]

Originally Posted by deviation

Carbs?
Sodium?
Sugar?

Also things you should be looking at. But yeah, 100 cals isn't anything to be worried about. That is easy to add in to your diet.

i didnt list them because there are no carbs or sugar. 50mg of sodium.

[Dreamliner]

Not a flame, but the fact that some of you are taking your protein in water (how can that possibly taste good ?) would appear to indicate that you are sensitive to caloric intake. Very good. Now please consider that protein requirements are exaggerated (they are) and then you want have to take the yucky stuff like it's so much medicine.

It's easy to get all the protein in the food you eat, even when you're on a rather aggressive calorie deficit. Studies do show that people lose more fat on a high-protein diet. But it is important to understand that high-protein in the studies is less than half to one-fourth (or even less) than what the supplements catalogs, er, bodybuilding magazines recommend.

[LeafUF]

I take my protein shake in water and its effin delicious. I dont eat much dairy because it messes up my stomach. So, never had done protein shake with milk.

That said ON Tropical Punch and Dymatize Cafe Mocha (or something like that) taste great and have good make ups.

[mastoidbone]

I too have never been able to lose weight when exercising heavily----2-5 hour bike rides in mountains-----i got more fit, and stronger, but didnt lose weight.

Only way i lose weight is MAJOR calorie reduction and light activity---the more i exercise heavily---the harder time i have reducing calories----and while on a 5 hour bike ride climbing high mountains i might lose 4,000 calories------i can EASILY eat that in post ride meals and snacks and dessert.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by mastoidbone

I too have never been able to lose weight when exercising heavily----2-5 hour bike rides in mountains-----i got more fit, and stronger, but didnt lose weight.

Only way i lose weight is MAJOR calorie reduction and light activity---the more i exercise heavily---the harder time i have reducing calories----and while on a 5 hour bike ride climbing high mountains i might lose 4,000 calories------i can EASILY eat that in post ride meals and snacks and dessert.

It's AMAZING how quickly you can wash out a 'calorie burn.' Of course the vast majority of workouts never come remotely close to a 5 hour bike ride through the mountains of Northern Italy. The average trainee will undo a treadmill workout by eating half a bagel with lowfat cream cheese, or maybe a couple of extra bites per meal. This is why a calorie deficit should come from the eating side, with calories burned from exercise considered a bonus.

[mastoidbone]

The thing is---in order to prepare for 5 hour ride---you first must eat a LARGE meal night before and in the AM---then eat the whole time you are riding---are you WILL bonk---and when you bonk 40 miles from home----you are in for a horrible ride----

If you look at total picture---yes i burned 4000 calories----but between pre ride meal, intra-ride meals, and post ride feast----i could have EASILY eaten 6000 calories.....so then where am I???

Had an epic ride, ate great, got fit, and gained weight!!!!!!


Its funny---but to lose weight I have to ride LESS---still ride and get workout---but not the heavy riding---no way to lose weight that way.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by mastoidbone

The thing is---in order to prepare for 5 hour ride---you first must eat a LARGE meal night before and in the AM---then eat the whole time you are riding---are you WILL bonk---and when you bonk 40 miles from home----you are in for a horrible ride----

If you look at total picture---yes i burned 4000 calories----but between pre ride meal, intra-ride meals, and post ride feast----i could have EASILY eaten 6000 calories.....so then where am I???

Had an epic ride, ate great, got fit, and gained weight!!!!!!


Its funny---but to lose weight I have to ride LESS---still ride and get workout---but not the heavy riding---no way to lose weight that way.

That's it! You have to pick your battles. Do you want to lose weight or do you want to do stupid stuff ? I do stupid stuff, like 100 deadlifts, once in a blue moon myself.

And I wish more people understood the latter. If you want to lose weight fast, aggressive calorie deficit plus just the sweet-spot on exercise.

[kalaniocc]

just got some new shoes for my 10k in oregon this september



go gata

[jdrgator]

I have two protein shakes a day now, even before getting back into the swing of things. My morning shake is really a meal replacement, and I have it with pb, a small banana, and skim, plain yogurt (and ice). I also have one right after training, but just protein, milk, and ice. The thing is, it 1) satiates me and 2) I can control the calories very well so it fits right into my weight loss plan.

At the end of the day it boils down to two things 1. burning more energy than I put in and 2. eating nutritious foods.

[jdrgator]

Originally Posted by kalaniocc

just got some new shoes for my 10k in oregon this september



go gata

Sweet kicks!

[themistocles]

Humans require very little protein in their diet to maintain a healthy muscle versus fat ratio.

The EVIL Meat and Dairy Industry SELLS Protein as if it is Vital, which is true for Carnivores but not for obvious herbivores like humans, who have Alkaline Mouths, Stomach Acids on the order of 1/4 the acidic strength of Carnivores, and convoluted bowels that stretch 12 times body length to draw nutrition from digested food for a long time rather than the smooth bowels of Carnivores that are designed to get high protein meat out of the body quickly before the very dense toxins that meat contains increase toxicity in the body to disastrous levels.

The typically high protein diets of Americans are a major reason why Americans are among the least healthy 1st World Peoples on Earth.

8-10% of your calories in the form of protein is more than adequate to maintain a health muscle/fat mass ratio.

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[chrisleakfan4life]

Where did you get those shoes at?