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Old 11-04-2009, 06:26 PM   #1
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I just wanted to say that I thought it was pretty impressive that inspite of all the media circus and complete insanity that has surrounded this entire situation, Washaun Ealey (A rival RB with nothing to gain) was honest enough to tell what really happened in the pile as far as he knew. He (with nothing to gain) admitted that there was a lot of trash talking going on and that he believes this kind of stuff happens all the time.

For him to admit all of this and then top it all off with his honest opinion that Spikes shouldn't be suspended, like I said was very impressive to me.

He could have easily been pressured into lying and saying that Spikes intentionally gouged him and that he should be suspended for the rest of the season. If he would have done this, everyone would have believed him and would have gained more attention for himself. If it somehow did come out he was lying, he would have more than likely been forgiven as he is still only a freshman in college. But he told the truth and is now getting no attention for it.

I think ESPN should really take a good look at what they are doing. Trying to create a gigantic controversy over something as minorly bad as Spikes's hand to face move, but completely ignoring a player doing the right thing and then some. This should be the real story. If there is a sportsmanship award in the SEC, Ealey should win it.

Since no one else is saying it (Except for Gator Fans), I just want to give props to Washaun Ealey for doing what very few people seem to do these days by just being honest when there was nothing to gain by doing so. Best of luck to Washaun Ealey. Hopefully, he makes it to the N.F.L. one day. Going by the fact he is just a freshman and playing at UGA, I wouldn't bet against it. Just take it easy on the Gators.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
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He sure ticked off his fan base though. He must have brass balls because those in Athens didn't like him being honest. They wanted him to hammer Spikes. And it's those people he's facing everyday.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
If Urban Meyer had falsely accused Lane Kiffin of cheating you guys would be calling for his suspension or dismissal. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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No, actually it would have been purty funny. Bama accused foolmer of doing all sorts of things, and as much as we hated the fultanic, no one on the UT side ever made a big deal out of it. Well, maybe a few of the foolmer worshippers, but you gotta dismiss those people.
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No, actually it would have been purty funny. Bama accused foolmer of doing all sorts of things, and as much as we hated the fultanic, no one on the UT side ever made a big deal out of it. Well, maybe a few of the foolmer worshippers, but you gotta dismiss those people.
Sure, whatever you say buddy, you can't even be honest with yourself. You gotta dismiss people like you.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Did you even read my post? I was not defending Spikes, but rather praising Ealey.
Did you read what Ealey said? Spikes never touched his eyes.
Apparently you did not.

I don't have a problem with a Spikes suspension for having his hand in Ealey's helmet, but this whole thing is blown completely out of proportion. Also, this is not even close to what Titan/Vol Albert Haynesworth did. However, that is a matter of opinion and I am sure not going to say anything to change your vol mind as you vols tend to have a distorted view of reality.

They hit Tebow late in that game we didn't complain until uga started to complain. It is being looked at by the SEC right now. Why is there no huge controversy over that?

As for what I would expect him to say, many players would have said Spikes gouged their eyes so they can get more attention or because it goes along with what their own university is saying. However, Ealey didn't stoop to that level and was honest.

Didn't you read my post? I mean seriously, did you read it?
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AYFS Vol?

The dude lost his cool and did something worth suspension. His actions were inexcusable. It happened and he's suspended for the exact same time frame the SEC would have suspended him had be been caught by the refs, flagged and kicked out of the game. Luckily no one was hurt or a much longer suspension could be justified.

What is your recommendation? Take him to the gallows?
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I've pretty much stayed out of all the conversations regarding this but to me Brandon's hand movement suggests more of an attempt to get a good grip on the helmet to pull it off. Granted, I only watched what was shown during the telecast but if he was indeed going for the eyes I would think he would be sticking his fingers a little lower and straight out and not in a curling, gripping motion. To me it certainly looked more like he was trying to get a good grip on the helmet to return the favor of ripping it off.

I agree with the op sentiments regarding Ealey.
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Did you even read my post? I was not defending Spikes, but rather praising Ealey.
Did you read what Ealey said? Spikes never touched his eyes.
Apparently you did not.

I don't have a problem with a Spikes suspension for having his hand in Ealey's helmet, but this whole thing is blown completely out of proportion. Also, this is not even close to what Titan/Vol Albert Haynesworth did. However, that is a matter of opinion and I am sure not going to say anything to change your vol mind as you vols tend to have a distorted view of reality.

They hit Tebow late in that game we didn't complain until uga started to complain. It is being looked at by the SEC right now. Why is there no huge controversy over that?

As for what I would expect him to say, many players would have said Spikes gouged their eyes so they can get more attention or because it goes along with what their own university is saying. However, Ealey didn't stoop to that level and was honest.

Didn't you read my post? I mean seriously, did you read it?
I have noticed that a big side effect of Vol overconsumption of the Kiffin Koolaid is an inability to read and comprehend. Now it could also be the result of a subpar education but it seems to have gotten worse with the Koolaid.
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I think the Dog had to come out and say it, otherwise his actions during the game were going to be highly scrutinized.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
haha wow dude, you're pretty dumb. Saying Spikes dug his fingers in his eyes is a huge assumption. You don't know anything for sure. His actions are inexcusable but saying he dug his finger's in Ealey's eyes is down right ignorant. But I shouldn't be surprised since you're a vol fan.
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I have noticed that a big side effect of Vol overconsumption of the Kiffin Koolaid is an inability to read and comprehend. Now it could also be the result of a subpar education but it seems to have gotten worse with the Koolaid.
I agree. I mean they were never the brightest, but ever since lame's arrival their delusional ways seem to getting in the way of even the most basic skills to a much greater degree. Very good observation.
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Did you even read my post? I was not defending Spikes, but rather praising Ealey.
Did you read what Ealey said? Spikes never touched his eyes.
Apparently you did not.

I don't have a problem with a Spikes suspension for having his hand in Ealey's helmet, but this whole thing is blown completely out of proportion. Also, this is not even close to what Titan/Vol Albert Haynesworth did. However, that is a matter of opinion and I am sure not going to say anything to change your vol mind as you vols tend to have a distorted view of reality.

They hit Tebow late in that game we didn't complain until uga started to complain. It is being looked at by the SEC right now. Why is there no huge controversy over that?

As for what I would expect him to say, many players would have said Spikes gouged their eyes so they can get more attention or because it goes along with what their own university is saying. However, Ealey didn't stoop to that level and was honest.

Didn't you read my post? I mean seriously, did you read it?
You used too many words with more than four letters. Of course the Vol didn't read... he couldn't. Try smaller words and simple phrases next time.
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I think the Dog had to come out and say it, otherwise his actions during the game were going to be highly scrutinized.
You may be right, but I am not sure Ealey did anything that was that bad. He got into some arguments and was involved in a few shoving matches after plays were over, but nothing that would have gotten him suspended or anything. Just things that could have maybe drawn flags. That stuff goes on in pretty much every game you watch at some point.

I have heard rumors that Ealey spit on Spikes. Really haven't heard or seen anything that would make me believe it, but if that is true, yeah he could have gotten in some trouble for that.

From what I hear (Not sure if it true), Ealey is being criticized by dawg fans for telling everyone that Spikes didn't do anything, so I am not sure if fear of criticism was why he was being honest.

I don't claim to know why Ealey decided to tell the truth, but he did. I am just taking the non-skeptical side on this one because in my opinion, the evidence supports that. However, I fully respect yours.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Whats UNREAL is how many living-room-referees slurp the scum off of the cesspool that is ESPN's journalistic integrity without taking the time to form logical thoughts.

Let's start with the facts:

1) Video clearly shows that Brandon Spikes' hand was inside Ealey's facemask. It wasn't an accident, it didn't slip. Spikes put it there intentionally.
2) That is ALL the video shows. There is no eyeball on the field, no pool of blood.
3) Ealey played the next down. No timeout while trainers had to attend to him, no Visine, nothing.
4) Ealey, not his coach, teammate, girlfriend, grandmother, or even one of his rabid fans, but Ealey, said that Spikes didn't get near his eyes.

These are the facts of the case, and they are undisputed.

Moving on to logical deductions based on facts. Please remove your Orange and Blue, Creamsicle, or Crimson glasses (or your gently-used black helmets) as you enter the Realm of Intelligent Thought.

You don't know WHAT Spikes was doing with his hand in there. The only actual allusion to intent was when Meyer acknowledged at his "sentencing hearing" that the incident was some form of retaliation. So we can agree that he wasn't picking a piece of spinach out of his teeth. What NOBODY KNOWS based on the video is whether he was wiping Ealey's spit back in his face from the previous play, or he stuck his hand up his butt and was giving him the dirty sanchez, or if he was in fact "gouging" his eyes. So lets examine the rest of the evidence and see if we can narrow down the field...

Can we agree that as Ealey was down after the tackle and was holding onto the ball, Spikes had fairly free access to his facemask? Buckle up kids, because here comes some independent thought (please don't tell ESPN). If A) Spikes intended to gouge Ealey's eyes, and B) Ealey was effectively defenseless to such an attack, then C) Spikes would have been at least moderately successful in his endeavor. Since Ealey did not show even the smallest sign of having experienced eye trauma, and, more importantly, Ealey himself stated that Spikes did not get near his eyes, then the premise that Spikes intended to gouge his eyes out MUST BE FALSE.

Now, once you remove "eye gouging" as a possibility, you're left with a much less compelling argument for Brandon Spikes being executed. You should try going back and watching the whole game instead of super-slow-motion replays of Spikes and Ealey. Count the number of times the ref's jumped in and prevented fights from breaking out. Count the number of helmet slaps, shoves, and late hits that went unnoticed. The ref's did a pretty good job of letting that stuff go and allowing the teams to play it out rather than calling a personal foul on every play, even though they probably could have. It was an extremely intense rivalry game, and the dirty play was being dished out accross the board. I'm not arguing that the dawgs were worse than the Gators, and I'm not implying that Spikes was at all justified in sticking his hand inside Ealey's helmet. I don't care if Spikes was provoked, it was a bad move. All I'm saying is that like Chris Rock, I UNDERSTAND.

Now how many games would be enough for you? One? Two? The bowl game (thats the game played at the end of the year after you've won at least half of your games, in case you Vol fans have forgotten)? The guy screwed up. I'll give you that. What you don't know is motive or intent, and you don't even have a victim. Even Ealey thinks you're blowing this out of proportion.
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You used too many words with more than four letters. Of course the Vol didn't read... he couldn't. Try smaller words and simple phrases next time.
I guess from now on, when I am talking/typing to vols, I'll just have to copy my posts straight from the children's books. Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering why vols seem to have such a hard time with my posts. I guess its those big four and five letter words that throw them off.
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This whole thing is ridiculous! I agree that Spikes should have not put his fingers inside the guy's facemask, but if he truly was trying to gouge his eyes, he would have accomplished it.

Ealey is none the worse for wear, has no damage to his eyes or face at all and admits it.

People on this board who claim to be Gators are sometimes just as much haters as the Vols or Poodles.

Get a grip.
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What would you expect him to say?

Totally UNREAL how some of you are defending trying to gouge someone's eyes out. Almost unbelievable. BIG difference in sticking your fingers in a man's eyes than a late hit or something. That happens all the time and is not always intentional.

BUT, digging your fingers into someone's eyes IS intentional, its NOT a part of the game in any way. Its the equivalent of Haynesworth stomping on that Cowboy players head a few years ago. Even worse.

If someone had tackled Timmy and started that dirty crap, you guys would be calling for his arrest and imprisonment. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
NOBODY defended Spikes' action, nor did he "try to gouge someone's eyes out" you stupid hillbilly piece of non-reading comprehension crap.

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