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Old 11-03-2009, 10:27 PM   #1
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"Mother Theresa spent her whole life saying (that what Calcutta needs) is a huge campaign against family planning. I mean, who comes to that conclusion who isn't a complete fanatic? She took - and I would directly say stole...millions and millions of dollars and spent all the money not on the poor, but on the building of nearly 200 convents in her own name around the world to glorify herself and to continue to spread the doctrine that, as she put it -- when she got her absurd Nobel Peace Prize -- that the main threat to world peace is abortion and contraception. The woman was a fanatic and a fundamentalist and a fraud, and millions of people are much worse off because of her life, and it's a shame there is no hell for your bitch to go to."
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spot on caricature of the woman...im sure calcutta thanks her...

ive always wondered how easy it is to justify decisions and actions based on the belief it is what god would want or do.
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I don't know enough about Mother Theresa but the campaign against birth control was horrible. I'm convinced that spaying and neutoring people in some places of the world is an inevitability because further multiplication of human beings will be unsustainable. And you don't have to fear global warming to fear the effects of too many human beings on this planet.
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so true but will the species act before its too late?

will we murder each other over resources that would not have been depleted if we had the balls to manage our numbers responsibly in absence of natural selection..

i think we will eventually but only at the feet of great suffering for many of the geographically less fortunate.
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Hitchens is largely incoherent (and that's when he's sober). But many Americans are taken in by his British accent.

And I loved it when Mother Theresa essentially called Clinton a murderer to his face.
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hitchens is the most tolerable of the atheist publicity whores scuttling around the world hawking their books and getting appearance fees...and the slurred british accent is a nice touch..

as for mother theresa opining on clintons policy decisions, you could just as easily opine that her hands were a bit more bloody than his...

but thats all subjective
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hitchens is the most tolerable of the atheist publicity whores scuttling around the world hawking their books and getting appearance fees...and the slurred british accent is a nice touch..

as for mother theresa opining on clintons policy decisions, you could just as easily opine that her hands were a bit more bloody than his...

but thats all subjective
Regarding your take on Hitchens, that's not saying much. And regarding your take on Mother Teresa, she's trailing Clinton by millions of murders (and that's just the early returns).
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if we had the balls to manage our numbers responsibly
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ive always been enthralled by this...the opening to watership down

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She and Mao are great philosophers...or so I've heard
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Yup...assail a woman who dedicated her life to serving the poor and doing everything she could think of to improving their lives: caring for the sick, dealing with horrible poverty, fighting for people no one gave a damn about.

Is this what society has come to? You can disagree with her about her campaign against contraception and family planning (I do--and I'm Catholic), but this is going too far.

She has done more for humanity than Hitchens can ever remotely fathom. I'd love to hear or see him point to a single atheist figure who's done as much for the poor as Mother Theresa did.
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Written in the spirit of hating somebody, anybody else's life moreso than your own, which has an energy that keeps the processes of eliminating those other hated lives, alive.
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ive always wondered how easy it is to justify decisions and actions based on the belief it is what god would want or do.


...low road post.
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This is nothing new. Hitchens has never thought too highly of her. You don't just write a book called "The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice" unless you have an axe to grind.

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You can say a lot of things about Hitchens. He can be a tiny bit arrogant and bullying, but he's no idiot. Even after a bottle of Johny Walker Black, he still chews up opponents and spits them out. He makes very legitimate arguments about the harm religion does to society.

In this case, Teresa is just another example of taboo, so Hitchens is dramatically harsh for a reason. He's not the type to respect any taboo. He was the first person that I recall expressing publicly his pleasure at Jerry Falwell's death. As he was criticized for his rudeness, he reminded everyone about some of Falwell's better quotes.
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how so? i certainly didnt include any of accomplishments in life when i posted hitchens interview..so that wasnt fair

on one hand she helped many people with her attempts to educate, food distribution, etc...

on the other, how many suffered because she actively and loudly opposed contraception, family planning and abortion...

i take issue with white folks who travel to third world countries and practice charity at the end of a stick...especially when their sole driving argument is "your native religion is silly, christ is the only god" and look i have food so shouldnt you convert
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how so? i certainly didnt include any of accomplishments in life when i posted hitchens interview..so that wasnt fair

on one hand she helped many people with her attempts to educate, food distribution, etc...

on the other, how many suffered because she actively and loudly opposed contraception, family planning and abortion...

i take issue with white folks who travel to third world countries and practice charity at the end of a stick...especially when their sole driving argument is "your native religion is silly, christ is the only god" and look i have food so shouldnt you convert
Why don't you just go public with your disdain for Jesus ? Why hide behind the easier target of Mother Teresa ?
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no disdain here dream, that literary figure is not a consideration.
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Yeah, kind of an odd ax to grind.
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no disdain here dream, that literary figure is not a consideration.
Now you're jumping track, my friend. Aside from the facile silliness of the implied "Jesus was not an historical figure", you still have to deal with the literary figure. Later Christians did not simply conjure up a justification for converting people of other beliefs.
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