10-14-2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by themistocles
Good point Insti, although Ogbuze and Frazier may have something of an edge regarding minutes, but as you noted, with Boynton and Rosario in front of Frazier, there ain't much time there, while Ogbuze looks to me like he should get 10-15 minutes per game (unless some other PG steps up). Wilbekin will likely play other positions during games, if for no other reason than his defensive prowess, and I don't know that there is anyone else to play point, well, I guess Boynton could - we might well see Boynton point, Rosario two, Wilbekin three.
Every season is interesting.
For me, one big question is: "Can these Gators beat Tennessee in Knoxville (the only contest between these two arch rivals)?"
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10-30-2012, 11:00 AM
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#62
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Originally Posted by GatorsGators
Rosario at point would be a disaster, imo.
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Billy is going with the disaster.
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10-30-2012, 02:20 PM
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So, it'll be Wilbekin, Boynton, Rosario, Murphy and Young.
It's not far out to suggest that a lot of this season could hinge on the development of Prather and Rosario, along with Wilbekin's ability to create as the starter at PG.
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10-30-2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorsGators
Rosario at point would be a disaster, imo.
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Agreed, fortunately, Rosario will be the 3 and Wilbekin will be the point...
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10-30-2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePlayer
Billy is going with the disaster.
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So Wilbekin and Rosario are both starting, yet Rosario is going to play the point?
Makes sense.
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10-30-2012, 06:40 PM
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No, Wilbekin gets the first crack at PG.
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10-30-2012, 08:53 PM
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Rosario at PG lol! Not happenen.. but that boy can get buckets! So excited for Thursday! Let's go boys!!!
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10-30-2012, 11:26 PM
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^^ that is his son, who transferred from Catholic U. and is a walk-on.
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10-30-2012, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlayer
Billy is going with the disaster.
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Rosario will not be the pg.
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10-31-2012, 09:59 AM
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JMHO, Rosario isn't big or strong enough to be successful at the 3. He gets injured too easily to boot.
I'd rather it be a combo of Rosario and Prather. It likely will take both players stats to replace Bradley Beal. Moving Will Yeguette down to the 3 would have made sense until Larson decided to move on. The closest 3 we have on the roster is Prather. I guess there is always hope that Casey can take his individual game and subordinate it to Billy Ball.
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10-31-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ETGator1
JMHO, Rosario isn't big or strong enough to be successful at the 3. He gets injured too easily to boot.
I'd rather it be a combo of Rosario and Prather. It likely will take both players stats to replace Bradley Beal. Moving Will Yeguette down to the 3 would have made sense until Larson decided to move on. The closest 3 we have on the roster is Prather. I guess there is always hope that Casey can take his individual game and subordinate it to Billy Ball.
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I don't believe that Casey needs to subordinate his game. He just needs to eliminate mistakes and play within the flow of the game. He has plenty of talent and is a legitimate small forward.
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11-01-2012, 01:40 PM
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There are some MYTHS about what Beal brought to UF last year partly because he was drafted so high on potential and how pretty his shot looked. Here is a summary of the plus and minus characteristics:
1. 14.8 points and 6.7 rebounds per game. That is a fair number of both points and rebounds in the Donovan system.
2. 2.1 turnovers per game and 5 or 6 in many of the big games UF played last season, Ohio State 5 turnovers, Cuse 5, at UTn 5, at UAR 6, ect. It did not happen every big game and as my list shows, UF did not lose every big turnover game he had. Still Beal was a frosh who had way too many turnovers as frosh will.
3. 34% shooting from the arc. So he and Rosario shot essentially the same percentage from the arc. Though Beal's shot is prettier which is some of what got him drafted so early.
4. Solid D but undersized for the position which cost UF at times.
Rosario has a very good potential to replace all of this.
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11-01-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1
There are some MYTHS about what Beal brought to UF last year partly because he was drafted so high on potential and how pretty his shot looked. Here is a summary of the plus and minus characteristics:
1. 14.8 points and 6.7 rebounds per game. That is a fair number of both points and rebounds in the Donovan system.
2. 2.1 turnovers per game and 5 or 6 in many of the big games UF played last season, Ohio State 5 turnovers, Cuse 5, at UTn 5, at UAR 6, ect. It did not happen every big game and as my list shows, UF did not lose every big turnover game he had. Still Beal was a frosh who had way too many turnovers as frosh will.
3. 34% shooting from the arc. So he and Rosario shot essentially the same percentage from the arc. Though Beal's shot is prettier which is some of what got him drafted so early.
4. Solid D but undersized for the position which cost UF at times.
Rosario has a very good potential to replace all of this.
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As a team, we can replace what Bradley did. Mike alone will not replace what Beal was able to contribute to this team. The scoring and the shooting, Mike will strongly contribute to, but the rebounding and defense will be replaced by Wilbekin and Prather, because Rosario will not be defending many, if any opposing wings. Rosario will also be getting back on offensive rebounds and outletting for fast breaks, while Wilbekin and Prather will be going to the glass.
I actually believe we have the potential to be a much more rounded and overall better team than last season, even after losing the third overall pick in the NBA draft. That is no slight on Beal, just a statement that as a team, we can be improved.
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11-01-2012, 05:37 PM
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Interesting that this had turned into another thread about replacing Beal, I guess that's why Insti started one specifically on that topic.
I am curious why nobody has started any threads about replacing Walker. I mean, he was an excellent shooter and a very good ball handler as well.
Of course, Wilbekin has done more than anyone ever expected of him both of his two years as a Gator, so perhaps that is why no one is saying: "Who will replace Walker?", because they expect Wilbekin to do that.
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11-02-2012, 02:38 PM
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still not sure why anyone thinks Rosario will be point, Scotty will be the starter and I think eventually Braxton will get time as well for point.
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11-02-2012, 05:45 PM
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my 5:
Ogubeze pg, Frazier SF, Boynton 2g, yegette pf, young c
Now this is Gator Firepower, errr Gatorade! lol
2nd team
wilbekin pg, graham 2g, prather sf, yegette pf, murphy c
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