LB James Hearns of Lincoln High School, Tallahassee FL withdraws Commitment.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Interesting when you think about who was "committed" early in the process at linebacker.

Lawson
Hearns
Powell
McMillian

It looks as if McMillian will be the only player that makes good on his word. Lawson couldn't maintain any self-control. Hearns couldn't get his grades in order. Powell couldn't handle three other players being brought in at his position. Recruiting is something else.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Boy...Muschamp not playing around.

Out of Muschamps hands.

[DeBigLeezard]

The article on the front page of GC says that Awbrin is, "... now in the driver's seat..."

Another example of how it is harder for Florida to get and keep kids in our university than those to the northwest of us.
I realize that this is a standard that THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA has set.
It just the same thing every year... the Awbrin's, Alabammy's and the FSU's other world get to choose those great defensive players that can cut the grades.

Hate it...

[MotownGator]

I take this as a positive. If we were not willing to wait to see if he will make it, we must feel good about 6-7 we want to fill all our slots.

[StrangeGator]

Originally Posted by MotownGator

I take this as a positive. If we were not willing to wait to see if he will make it, we must feel good about 6-7 we want to fill all our slots.

I seriously doubt that is the case. Our admissions people pulled the plug on this one. I don't think we'll be able to replace him with comparable talent at the same position, nor do I think there are six or seven prospects left who are worth offering.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by StrangeGator

I seriously doubt that is the case. Our admissions people pulled the plug on this one. I don't think we'll be able to replace him with comparable talent at the same position, nor do I think there are six or seven prospects left who are worth offering.

His replacement is already enrolled.......

[DieAGator]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

His replacement is already enrolled.......

Yep, gotta believe staff knew Hearns was likely to have some grade issues so they planned accordingly.

[G8R92]

Originally Posted by BobK89

Amazing to me how these kids can squander a top flight college chance to play football because of issues with grades.

You shouldn't be amazed. Most (certainly not all) athletes excel in their sport at the expense of their academics.

[phideltdj]

I don't like the fact we self-impose this criteria for admission standards and it is not an SEC admission requirement. Why would we give ourselves a recruiting disadvantage? Don't spew that garbage about academic integrity being important as we are talking about the football team and none of us could care less if Percy Harvin or Brandon Spikes could pass calculus...only if they could play ball.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by phideltdj

I don't like the fact we self-impose this criteria for admission standards and it is not an SEC admission requirement. Why would we give ourselves a recruiting disadvantage? Don't spew that garbage about academic integrity being important as we are talking about the football team and none of us could care less if Percy Harvin or Brandon Spikes could pass calculus...only if they could play ball.

Calculus? Maybe if they're going to engineering school.

[MotownGator]

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

[demosthenes]

Originally Posted by MotownGator

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

Because our admissions wants to ensure the athletes can endure the academic rigors. What good would it to do to allow anyone in and then have ineligible players for bowl games?

Besides, UF is currently ranked #1 and has had several top ranked and many more highly rated classes. Our admissions isn't hindering our program even if we do have to drop a player or two from consideration every year.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by MotownGator

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

I know.....was just feeling a little bit punchy.

[phideltdj]

That was my point..once the athletes are admitted the only way they fail out of school is by not attending classes. There are many paths they put the athletes on that don't require the academic rigors you mention...we all know those crip classes like exceptional people, personal growth, intro to engineering so on and so on. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking these guys are forced to take calculus and organic chem.

[atlantagator86]

Sounds like there's a good chance Quinton Powell will end up a Gator with Hearns gone.

Second, if UF gave up on Hearns, then he's probably not going to qualify at Auburn either. I don't think there's a major difference in the academic standards of the SEC schools. Chances are Auburn is going to take him as a sign-and-place.

[MotownGator]

Originally Posted by phideltdj

That was my point..once the athletes are admitted the only way they fail out of school is by not attending classes. There are many paths they put the athletes on that don't require the academic rigors you mention...we all know those crip classes like exceptional people, personal growth, intro to engineering so on and so on. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking these guys are forced to take calculus and organic chem.

Exactly. Anybody remember the PG Robinson from the Michigan national champ b-ball team in the late 80s? He was a prop 48 casualty, but when he did get into Michigan, he somehow managed to stay eligible through his 3-4 years there. I would daresay UofMichigan is just as rigorous as Florida.

[ugaGator]

Originally Posted by atlantagator86

I don't think there's a major difference in the academic standards of the SEC schools. Chances are Auburn is going to take him as a sign-and-place.

There is a big difference.

[demosthenes]

Originally Posted by ugaGator

There is a big difference.

I walked into Auburn admissions office when I was looking at colleges and they asked me to fill out an application. They took it and told me to have a seat. I thought they were getting me an acknowledgement of having received my application. I started to get antsy and tired of waiting after 10-15 minutes when they came back and said I'd been accepted. I can't imagine many other schools that lax.

[gator7_5]

Originally Posted by MotownGator

Exactly. Anybody remember the PG Robinson from the Michigan national champ b-ball team in the late 80s? He was a prop 48 casualty, but when he did get into Michigan, he somehow managed to stay eligible through his 3-4 years there. I would daresay UofMichigan is just as rigorous as Florida.

Also Plex Burress.

Mich St lived on prop 48 kids from Florida in the 90's.

[atlantagator86]

Originally Posted by ugaGator

There is a big difference.

For regular students, yes there is definitely a difference.

But for student athletes, I believe all the SEC schools have very similar admission standards (except maybe Vandy). The issue with UF has always been in regards to certain classes counting, particularly from out of state kids.

But I believe the athletes who have not had qualifying scores at UF, have almost always had to look at schools outside the SEC.